Oyster card users: always touch in and out or get fined!

dougkillen

The corollary of this is that until 19 November, if you touch in and don't touch out, you only get charged the minimum fare for the journey!

dougkillen

The corollary of this is that until 19 November, if you touch in and don't touch out, you may get undercharged for the journey! :whistle:

Lara44

I think it's pretty harsh to have to have £4 on your card at all times, I mean you don't oftenly know what you have on your card because there's not really anywhere to check it.

Also although TFL have put up loads of posters about being charged, they haven't mentioned anything about the £4 thing.... I feel sorry for the staff because loads of people are going to try to touch in and even though they have enough money for that journey won't be able to travel, which is going to make people rather cross....

gromituk

Old_Gold wrote:

Ken Linvingstone may have got away with calling a reporter a Nazi guard but this system shows exactly the kind of bullying that would have done the Nazi's (sic) proud.

Oh don't be silly and regain your sense of proportion. Whatever the circumstances, people are only being prosecuted or fined because they are fare dodgers.

And yes, Oyster cards do track all your movements on London Transport, but credit cards, debit cards and loyalty cards track all your spending. It's a fact of life. They're not just pushing Oysters to spy on you - think of the money saved by the reduced use of paper tickets, ticket machines, barrier traversal times, etc. And my Oyster card is topped up automatically from my credit card (a facility for which they paid me £10) so I never have to worry about money for fares at all.

jordylass

I go to London as often as I can recently 2-3 times a year. I bought an Oyster card, top it up when I'm there and use it. I've never been anywhere else (in the UK) where the public transport system could rival London's. You have it easy with Oyster cards, you should see what most people in other city's get charged, (for much worse public transport).

The Pikie, I find it hard to sympathise, because your girlfriend hadn't been caught before didn't mean it hadn't happened before, and what if she hadn't had an Oyster card, would she have thought it was OK to get shuffled past the driver without paying?

HeaddyMX

Old_Gold wrote:

Ken Linvingstone may have got away with calling a reporter a Nazi guard but this system shows exactly the kind of bullying that would have done the Nazi's proud. More and more ordinary people are being criminalised under this kind of mentality. How long are we going to stand for this.
Please write to your MPs to complain.

Forget proportion! Anyone who agrees with these ridiculous fare hikes and big brother mentality obviously voted for Livingstone in the last mayoral election. And that's what we have to do the opposite of next time - vote "not Livingstone"!

(ahem) I don't use my homing beacon - erm - Oyster card at present, because I work outside of London and get a National Rail ticket.

gromituk

I refer you to the honourable lady's post just preceding yours...

Old_Gold

gromituk wrote:

Oh don't be silly and regain your sense of proportion. Whatever the circumstances, people are only being prosecuted or fined because they are fare dodgers.

And yes, Oyster cards do track all your movements on London Transport, but credit cards, debit cards and loyalty cards track all your spending. It's a fact of life. They're not just pushing Oysters to spy on you - think of the money saved by the reduced use of paper tickets, ticket machines, barrier traversal times, etc. And my Oyster card is topped up automatically from my credit card (a facility for which they paid me £10) so I never have to worry about money for fares at all.

Yes I think we can see where you are coming from. Start off by insulting me but cannot justify what you say and raise something that I made no mention of in your second paragraph.
Where is the proportionality in a lady being hounded and possibly fined £1000 because the machinery did not work on the bus. Or maybe you think everyone is a liar and a cheat. I am not usually vindictive but I hope it happens to you and then see how you feel.

Old_Gold

jordylass wrote:

I go to London as often as I can recently 2-3 times a year. I bought an Oyster card, top it up when I'm there and use it. I've never been anywhere else (in the UK) where the public transport system could rival London's. You have it easy with Oyster cards, you should see what most people in other city's get charged, (for much worse public transport).

The Pikie, I find it hard to sympathise, because your girlfriend hadn't been caught before didn't mean it hadn't happened before, and what if she hadn't had an Oyster card, would she have thought it was OK to get shuffled past the driver without paying?

What an incredible insult to someone you dont know. Are you really telling us all that you think this girl was lying. That she did not get pushed and shoved past the ticket point. You really do not live in London and travel in London if this experience does not happen for you.

jordylass

I already said I don't live in London, but I used to and I use public transport when I'm there. I did not say that she was lying, but her boyfriend said she gopt caught for not scanning her card, that comes with penaltys which have properly been put into place.
Of course, I like probably everyone else who gets on a bus in London, have had to scramble to get to the scanner or driver, but I have made sure I did it!