Shill Bidding - What do Ebay do?

Moglex

The interesting thing here, though is that despite fleabay saying no action was being taken, all the bids from the original shill disappeared.

Could she have done that herself?

smartie1976

Marvo434 wrote:

go to contact us, then as topic choose "Buying and finding", then "Fraud problems" then "Problem not listed" then continue, then a link to reporting shills.

They dont make it easy do they?

Incorrect.
There is a link SPECIFICALLY for shilling>
http://cgi1.ebay.co.uk/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?MfcISAPICommand=InlineSelfHelpWebform&wftype=2012&rcode=IV%25P10092&subject=Shill%20Bidding&bcrumb=Home%20%3E%20Help%20%3E%20eBay%20Policies%20%3E%20Rules%20for%20Sellers%20%3E%20Shill%20Bidding

This can be found by going to Help> search> SHILL> Click on Shill Bidding Link, then in that text somewhere is the highlighted word half way down REPORT.
It's not fraud and thus raising for this reason is invalid.

I have reported her anyway, as these 2 IDs need kicking off ebay.

trencherpilot

In my experience, when I have reported shill bidding to Ebay both the seller and bidder have had their accounts either suspended or have been NARU within 3 days. You just have to provide evidence as well as suspicion. Send an email to Ebay listing all the auction numbers etc. They are forced to do something then.

smartie1976

Funnily enough, I reported their items and got EXACTLY the same reply, word for word. Same "person" too. Which makes me think automated reply.

I have thus replied and advised them that in taking no action they are effectively condoning the actions of the shillers, in breach of their own policies, to which I would like a reason and explanation.

frivolous_fay

smartie1976 wrote:

Incorrect.
There is a link SPECIFICALLY for shilling>
http://cgi1.ebay.co.uk/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?MfcISAPICommand=InlineSelfHelpWebform&wftype=2012&rcode=IV%25P10092&subject=Shill%20Bidding&bcrumb=Home%20%3E%20Help%20%3E%20eBay%20Policies%20%3E%20Rules%20for%20Sellers%20%3E%20Shill%20Bidding

This can be found by going to Help> search> SHILL> Click on Shill Bidding Link, then in that text somewhere is the highlighted word half way down REPORT.
It's not fraud and thus raising for this reason is invalid.

That's probably why a couple of posters got such useless replies from ebay.

smartie1976

See post above yours...

naz.2000

frivolous_fay wrote:

That's probably why a couple of posters got such useless replies from ebay.

I used the specific shill bidding reporting link and still got the 'no action taken' response!

Moglex

I mentioned this above, but everyone has studiously ignored it:

If ebay took no action, how come all the first shill bidders bids disappeaerd?

Do you suppose that she went through and deleted them all herself, one after another?

Can you do that?

Even if she did, why did she do that unless ebay contacted her?

rdwarr

Moglex wrote:

I mentioned this above, but everyone has studiously ignored it:

If ebay took no action, how come all the first shill bidders bids disappeaerd?

Do you suppose that she went through and deleted them all herself, one after another?

Can you do that?

Even if she did, why did she do that unless ebay contacted her?

Could be that she did it because you brought the matter to her attention earlier on.

Moglex

rdwarr wrote:

Could be that she did it because you brought the matter to her attention earlier on.

No, I sent her that email after she'd removed the 'deb' shills and replaced it with the single shill 20p below Naomi's final bid.