The Great Cheap, Safe Fireworks Hunt

DelBoy69_2

I have enjoyed reading this thread, and as there seems to be a lot of experience here, I would like to ask a simple question.

I have had garden fireworks before, and as previous posts have pointed out they can be a bit feeble.

I have a 25M garden (but with a big willow at the end).
Is it worth the risk of buying cat 1.3 fireworks and letting them off at 20M (for a private party).
Has anyone had any experience of this, or would the advice be to stick with the cat 1.4.

Thanks.
Derek.

AnthonyUK

DelBoy69 wrote: »

I have enjoyed reading this thread, and as there seems to be a lot of experience here, I would like to ask a simple question.

I have had garden fireworks before, and as previous posts have pointed out they can be a bit feeble.

I have a 25M garden (but with a big willow at the end).
Is it worth the risk of buying cat 1.3 fireworks and letting them off at 20M (for a private party).
Has anyone had any experience of this, or would the advice be to stick with the cat 1.4.

Thanks.
Derek.

You should be OK with 1.3g 25m display retail stuff.

Tappy

DelBoy69 wrote: »

I have enjoyed reading this thread, and as there seems to be a lot of experience here, I would like to ask a simple question.

I have had garden fireworks before, and as previous posts have pointed out they can be a bit feeble.

I have a 25M garden (but with a big willow at the end).
Is it worth the risk of buying cat 1.3 fireworks and letting them off at 20M (for a private party).
Has anyone had any experience of this, or would the advice be to stick with the cat 1.4.

Thanks.
Derek.

I think your getting your regs mixed up. There are 1.3g an 1.4g 25m and 5m fireworks. The 1.3g, 1.4g rating has nothing to do with the distance you can fire them from. It is about the way you store them.

With 1.4g you can store upto 5kg for as long as you want. 5-50kg for up to 3 weeks. 50-250kg for up to 3 days.

With 1.3g you can store upto 5kg for as long as you want. 5-100kg for up to 3 days.

The 1.3g fireworks tend to give you more of a bang.

Then there are categories of fireworks (cat1-4). UK consumer fireworks are normally cat2 or cat3.

Cat2 are your standard garden fireworks. These typically have a safety distance of 5m. There are some 8m pieces.

Cat3 are your 25m fireworks.

Cat1 is for indoor fireworks and Cat4 are professional fireworks.

With all that said, I would never recommend firing cat3 fireworks with only 20m of space. Cat3 fireworks have a maximum debris limit of 20m, so spectators could have debris land on them.

AnthonyUK

Tappy wrote: »

I think your getting your regs mixed up. There are 1.3g an 1.4g 25m and 5m fireworks. The 1.3g, 1.4g rating has nothing to do with the distance you can fire them from. It is about the way you store them.

With 1.4g you can store upto 5kg for as long as you want. 5-50kg for up to 3 weeks. 50-250kg for up to 3 days.

With 1.3g you can store upto 5kg for as long as you want. 5-100kg for up to 3 days.

The 1.3g fireworks tend to give you more of a bang.

Then there are categories of fireworks (cat1-4). UK consumer fireworks are normally cat2 or cat3.

Cat2 are your standard garden fireworks. These typically have a safety distance of 5m. There are some 8m pieces.

Cat3 are your 25m fireworks.

Cat1 is for indoor fireworks and Cat4 are professional fireworks.

With all that said, I would never recommend firing cat3 fireworks with only 20m of space. Cat3 fireworks have a maximum debris limit of 20m, so spectators could have debris land on them.

wrong tappy safety also depends on wind direction,the position of your spectators according to that,and fallout zone. Also many smaller fireworks marked 25m are tame and rubbish at that distance. I use small 25m fireworks at less than 25m and nobody has got injured to date.

Tappy

AnthonyUK wrote: »

wrong tappy safety also depends on wind direction,the position of your spectators according to that,and fallout zone. Also many smaller fireworks marked 25m are tame and rubbish at that distance. I use small 25m fireworks at less than 25m and nobody has got injured to date.

What am I wrong about? Cat3 fireworks with a safety distance of 25m shouldn't be fired within 20m of spectators and 5m of a tree.

Whilst he's likely to be able to light the fireworks without any danger, it certainly shouldn't be recommended.

AnthonyUK

Tappy wrote: »

What am I wrong about? Cat3 fireworks with a safety distance of 25m shouldn't be fired within 20m of spectators and 5m of a tree.

Whilst he's likely to be able to light the fireworks without any danger, it certainly shouldn't be recommended.

what harm will come? If the wind direction is blowing toward the fireworks and spectators are 20m upwind of them and there is a good fallout zone to the back(and as long as rockets are angled toward the fallout zone away from the tree), then there is no problem. Also many small fireworks marked 25m tend to be tame,gentle and ever so piddling at that distance you wonder why they bother giving them such a rating:some of these things are only the size of garden fireworks!

Tappy

AnthonyUK wrote: »

what harm will come? If the wind direction is blowing toward the fireworks and spectators are 20m upwind of them and there is a good fallout zone to the back(and as long as rockets are angled toward the fallout zone away from the tree), then there is no problem. Also many small fireworks marked 25m tend to be tame,gentle and ever so piddling at that distance you wonder why they bother giving them such a rating:some of these things are only the size of garden fireworks!

If there was no wind it's unlikely that he'd have much of a problem, but it doesn't mean it should be recommended.

AnthonyUK

Tappy wrote: »

If there was no wind it's unlikely that he'd have much of a problem, but it doesn't mean it should be recommended.

Like I say site layout/spectator areas and fallout are key. I've used 25m display fireworks at 20m distance in no wind and no harm has happened to my friends and guests, besides wind is good blowing towards the fireworks,it not only carries fallout safely away from the spectators it clears the smoke as well.

Thommo3105

Common sense is needed...if it is a small fountain which has 25M distance fine, if it is a large 1.3G SIB or a large King Dom rocket it MUST be at least 25M, the break on these is sometimes near 25M so if spectators were 20M away you are putting them at risk.

Thommo3105

Just been to Lidl, thought the Waco range looked very poor and cheap. Will be buying from Aldi on Sunday, Liberator barrage pack and Terminal Velocity rockets! You will not spend a better £30....