Travel to the U.S help

whatmichaelsays

There will inevitably be people who sneak through the cracks with a white lie on their ESTA but at the same time, there will be people who have been turned around at the border. What the OP has to ask himself is "Am I a gambling man or not?"

scottishperson

OP asked should he break the law, I stated no, you state he should. People can make up there own minds on that alone.

You also do not seem to know the repercussions of your statement. Data sharing is becoming widespread, moreso since the High Value Data Sharing Protocol. This data sharing will only increase. You also have to look at the US-Visit system, and the systems that it integrates with to know that a "hit", then a denial of ever been arrested, will result in refusal - whether that arrest with a CiMT or not. Its easier to deny entry to someone for immigration fraud that for anything else.

You also have a very worrying lack of knowledge on the systems and the law, beleiving that

Jimavfc82 wrote:

its not very difficult to look up on the net that you need to get a Visa if you have any previous caution

which is just laughable.

scottishperson

dzug1 wrote: »

I doubt it is shared for minor offences - but that is a doubt, not knowledge.

But what is a minor offence, caught smoking cannabis in the UK is deemed minor, in the US its drugs related. Drink driving in canada is a major no-no. All they have to prove is that you lied, commited immigration fraud, and thats it.

It would be impossible to resolve every single UK criminal act to a US Criminal Code, and decide what is, and what is not, moral turpitude. Even the US can't decide that for there own Codes, let alone for every other country in the world (or at least the major "data sharing" ones such as Canada, Australia, UK, New Zealand).

The "major criminality" aspect of what is shared is also "fluffy" - what is "major criminality", we'll never know.

IMO, and this is only an opinion, instead of the US/Canada/Australia having to phone up heathrow and speak to a seconded police office who can access the police national computer, hits will just appear on the terminals at the point of entry. All it needs is an "arrested Yes/No" on the terminal, a denial from the passenger, and game over.

slightlyconfused1

Hi

On a practical level, I travelled to Orlando in October last year and travelled again this year. I noticed a huge difference in security this year. There was no "rubber stamping" this year everyone was questioned for a while. I also some people being directed to other areas (although sometimes it was to have their luggage fully examined). When we went through immigration, the officer was very friendly but was certainly asking a lot of questions. We went through customs with hardly any questions, others were questioned re the amount of money they had etc.

I personally would not chance getting turned away and would certainly apply for a visa.