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Central heating radiators going cold downstairs when hot water put on.. Help!!

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  • mikeluxy
    mikeluxy Posts: 40 Forumite
    Im not an expert on this....This was the Boiler that was recommended for our system....If, as you say there is a circulator in the boiler too do you think that the water from the new Wilo pump may be pushing the water round too fast and this may be causing problems....?
  • keystone
    keystone Posts: 10,916 Forumite
    Could you take two pictures please:

    First the piping arrangements at the base of the boiler.

    Secondly the area around the cylinder showing the circulator you replaced, zone valves etc. Host them on imageshack or similar and link to them here.

    If the forum wont allow you to post links then just remove the http bit from the link before you submit your post. We an oput it back in again afterwards.

    Cheers
    The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has it's limits. - Einstein
  • Canucklehead
    Canucklehead Posts: 6,254 Forumite
    Hi,

    You'll have a heat only boiler. Two 22mm pipes off the top left side.

    Have you asked your installer for any advice?
    You don't know if you have a Magnaclean or anything similar, what was in the quote ?
    Or was the boiler fitted before you moved in?


    GSR.
    Ask to see CIPHE (Chartered Institute of Plumbing & Heating Engineering)
  • keystone
    keystone Posts: 10,916 Forumite
    OK the reason I asked is that this boiler is normally installed with weather compensation. The page you linked to says that if weather compensation is fitted then the boiler must be installed as a 4 pipe system. That is to say heating and hot water are separate which is not as you have described earlier.

    I agree with CH - time to call in your installer for a chat about it.

    Cheers
    The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has it's limits. - Einstein
  • frank.hopper
    frank.hopper Posts: 208 Forumite
    edited 10 November 2010 at 2:55AM
    mikeluxy wrote: »
    I have tried bleeding the radiators to no avail....I was wondering about a blockage but then again why would the radiators upstairs and downstairs get hot when the hot water is off...?

    Mike

    Probably because the HW circuit is not sludged up, unlike the heating circuit - less resistance in the pipework to the cylinder.


    My previous post regarding backfill wasn't about air! it was using MAINS PRESSURE to dislodge the possibility of a build up of sludge in the primary pipework.
  • Frank

    Are there any risks associated with this backfilling idea or is it "like falling off a log"....I assume it would just be a case of connecting the hose to the lowest point and make sure pump and boiler are all shut down....?

    Plus Zone valve set to manual...?

    Mike
  • keystone wrote: »
    OK the reason I asked is that this boiler is normally installed with weather compensation. The page you linked to says that if weather compensation is fitted then the boiler must be installed as a 4 pipe system. That is to say heating and hot water are separate which is not as you have described earlier.

    I agree with CH - time to call in your installer for a chat about it.

    Cheers

    Hi There

    I have had a check and the link I sent was for a newer model of boiler...ours does not have the Weather Compensation fitted and its the standard 2 pipe system.

    Mike
  • Probably because the HW circuit is not sludged up, unlike the heating circuit - less resistance in the pipework to the cylinder.


    My previous post regarding backfill wasn't about air! it was using MAINS PRESSURE to dislodge the possibility of a build up of sludge in the primary pipework.

    Frank

    Could you just explain the procedure you would use to do this...I think it may be worth a shot...

    Basically just a hose connected to bottom drain valve...a friend sat in loft to keep an eye on expansion tank and me keeping one hand on the on off on the tap :) ?

    Would you advise using low pressure first and gradually increasing pressure...?

    I look forward to your comments

    Cheers

    Mike
  • keystone
    keystone Posts: 10,916 Forumite
    Its not going to work. Backfilling only works on an EMPTY system and it won't shift any sludge anyway. Try it and watch the hose pop off the draincock in about 33 millisecs even with a jubilee clip in place. Oh and be prepared to hget very wet.

    You really do need to get someone in to look at the system first hand and I would suggest the installer who installed your new boiler as a first stop. This has been going back and forth now for over 4 days and you are no closer to resolving the problem. Its costing you a small fortune in your own time.

    Make that 'phone call.

    Cheers

    PS Thanks for info on the way your system is piped.
    The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has it's limits. - Einstein
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