Roxburghe

daisychain1_3

Hi,
I'm after some advice if anyone can help? I recieved a parking fine a few weeks ago in the car park where I work. I ignored the ticket completely after following advice on this website as the car park is a free carpark. I had overstayed in a 2 hour bay.
I have just recieved a letter from a debt collection company called Roxburghe saying that I now owe £148 due to extra admin costs and have been instructed to pay this within 14 days.
The letter does not state what will happen if I do not pay such as court action etc. (I assume that this would be in the next letter should I ignore this one).
Should I just ignore it or write to them to tell them I won't be paying?
I'm just a bit worried about having a debt collection agency after me and my credit reference etc.
Thanks in anticipation for your help.

lucylucky

If you were in a private car park then you have not received a fine.

If you do a search for Roxburghe, on here, you will find a lot of useful info.

Don't worry you don't owe anyone anything neither will your credit rating be affected

daisychain1_3

Hi,
Thanks for that. It makes me feel better! The car park is a private car park run by a mangement company called LDK.
They word the charge in the letter as a Civil Parking Charge Notice if that makes any difference?
Should I just ignore the letter completely then?
Thanks again.

lucylucky

You can happily ignore it and all subsequent threatening letters.

daisychain1_3

Help! I have today recieved another letter from Roxburghe saying that if I dont pay up they will pass my case to Graham White solicitor for legal action. Do I also ignore this one? Can these solicitors actually bring legal proceedings against me?
Thanks.

cajef

Roxburghe and Graham White solicitor are one and the same people a bunch of scam artists, they are just empty threats, as previously advised read some of the threads in the sub-section of this forum starting with this one https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/1583539


Whatever you do do not contact them and continue to ignore them, you will get more letters then eventually they will give up.

muckybutt

Roxburghe and Graham White....been there done that and run their gauntlet of postal spam, came out the other side smelling of roses and with a letter from my MP saying "I hope you are not going to pay it !", feel safe it the knowledge that others have been there before you and have not been taken to court, me included.

daisychain1_3

Thanks guys, good to know! I have receieved the letter from Graham White this morning. Its easy to see why people pay up! They make it sound quite scary by threatening credit problems, bailiffs, judgement orders and extra costs. Again I will just ignore it! Thanks.

Wee_Willy_Harris

From first hand experience with LDK, you can expect a couple of threatening letters each from Roxburgh and G White (if you check the letters, you will see that they are both at the same address), if you ignore these then the next step will be a threatening letter from "Debt Recovery Plus" (They use MUCH more red ink!). If you ignore this then you MAY get the odd phone call. If you ignore these they (eventually) go away. I've had a few and I don't bother even opening the letters anymore.

NOTE: When I say "ignore", I mean completely. Don't respond to any letters and just hang up when they call. I can only tell you about my personal experience with them, but I haven't paid them a penny and I haven't recieved any further letters from tickets issued about a year ago. Be strong, be patient.

BarryW

I notice the advice to ignore these letters for Private Parking Charges and one of the basis is that the contract is with the driver not the keeper.

Roxburghe have obviously got wind to this and now include a section that says:

"Under the Terms and Conditions with the Parking Enforcement Notice it is important to note the every person who enters into a contract with the company for the parking of a vehicle at the Car Park, whether by purchasing a ticket or otherwise , does so on on behalf of himself and all other persons having any proprietary possessory or other financial material interest in the vehicle and its contents.

Whilst writing we would like to draw your attention to a common law doctrine of the law of agency, which confirms that a principal (registered keeper) is liable for the acts of its agent (the driver). As a result of this, it is our intention to pursue the registered keeper/owner of the vehicle in the absence of driver specifics".

Interestingly we appealed this ticket and heard nothing from them.

I'd like to fight this lot but I am aware of the advise that if they know your are listening they will go more.

muckybutt

Regardless of their wording change it's still rollocks !, private companies cannot impose penalties full stop.

The amount they ask for is deemed as a penalty because the amount does not reflect their actual loss, in most cases their loss is £0.00 because the land is not theirs.

Continue to ignore Roxburghe they are well known shysters and wont do court.