Is this really unreasonable?

milliebear00001

Shakethedisease wrote: »

Possibly not for a part-time or temporary contract job in Argos however..

Yes, this is absolutely key. There are not 'lots of people' who relocate for work. Those who do are almost always professionals, the well-qualified, people who move for a significant payrise, or people at the start of a career without ties or children.

To ask people to simple uproot themselves, away from support netwrks, families, schools etc etc, is a very different proposition to simply asking them to travel for an hour.

Even asking them to travel for an hour is unreasonable if they end up with little to show for it in their pay-packet because the wage is eaten away by extortionate travel costs and childcare.

We need to make it as easy as possible for people to work. At the moment, for some people, it is actually very difficult.

Shakethedisease

* off topic in reply to sss555s *

No, its Dave Gahan from Depeche Mode ( my username is one of their songs circa 1985 )

sss555s

Shakethedisease wrote: »

* off topic in reply to sss555s *

No, its Dave Gahan from Depeche Mode ( my username is one of their songs circa 1985 )

Dohhhhh of course!!

How did i not see that :rollseyes:

I had a few of their songs in the day.

So what are you? Master or servant? :A

hugheskevi

The public transport between Merthyr and Cardiff looks good.

Buses go every 15 minutes from an early hour throughout the day. Coming back they are equally frequent but get a bit thin after 1820 (one per hour running until 2300)

Cost of a 4 week travelpass is £77.90.

For a job with normal office hours, that is all comparable to London in terms of journey time spent commuting (an hour each way is common), frequency of service and cost.

WhiteHorse

careinthecommunity wrote: »

can i ask why it is ludicrous to relocate for work?

Simple. Moving house costs thousands. Allright if you are have plenty to spare on a speculative adventure. Not so jolly for anyone else.

WhiteHorse

kabayiri wrote: »

A party with joined up thinking would reinforce this philosophy by subsidising bus and rail transport even more. It would help neuter all those 'it costs me too much to commute' arguments in one swift blow.

Good point.

And yet in the recent budget, the rail companies have been given the go-ahead to increase their extortionate fares still further.

lucylucky

WhiteHorse wrote: »

Simple. Moving house costs thousands. Allright if you are have plenty to spare on a speculative adventure. Not so jolly for anyone else.

I don't think anyone was suggesting that people move purely speculatively. Were they?

WhiteHorse

Rochdale_Pioneers wrote: »

Mass unemployment and high levels of benefit claimants are rife because there aren't enough jobs and there are never going to be enough jobs locally.

There never will be again, either.

The Industrial Revolution is continuing. Technology continues to advance and people become needed less and less. Add a rising population to that and there really is no way out.

Publicity hungry politicians and knee-jerk commentators talk of 'getting people back to work', but the jobs aren't there to start with. Make-work schemes, fiddles like raising the school leaving age or the creation of hundreds of bogus universities, only serve to briefly paper over the cracks.

WhiteHorse

lucylucky wrote: »

I don't think anyone was suggesting that people move purely speculatively. Were they?

A politician did actually say that before the election.

lucylucky

WhiteHorse wrote: »

A politician did actually say that before the election.

What an odd thing to say, who was it?