7.5Ton speed limits

gethro

Stigy wrote: »

"Up to" will include your vehicle. I'm confused as to how you could receive a NIP on the say so of another driver that wasn't a Police Officer. Not sure if VOSA or HATOs can report such an offence, but I don't think they can! Either way, this was just another trucker was it not?

Hi
Yes it was another truck,where i over took it was going down a small hill with a broken white line my side,as i overtook i looked in my mirrors waiting for him to flash me in and when he flashed me i think i was starting to climb up the other side of the hill which had a solid line my side.
I believe i was back in before the solid line ,next thing i know i get a NIP as i have been reported for an alledged offence of dangerous driving ignoring road signs and overtaking aproaching a blind bend.
This can only be the other driver reporting me.

gethro

Hammyman wrote: »

Hand in your licence - you are a disgrace to the industry I spent 16 years in if you can't even work out the speed limits. Professional my backside you are. YOU SHOULD KNOW THEM OFF BY HEART.

BTW forgotmyname, you're wrong. Limiters have been fitted to new 7.5 tonners for a couple of years and there are plans afoot to fit them to 3.5t and then to all "transit type" vans.

Hammyman ,your wrong speed limiters have been fitted to most lorrys since 1996 ,we can all learn something new
But if youve been driving 16yrs you SHOULD KNOW THIS

skiddlydiddly

Stigy wrote: »

It's different if a Police Officer reports somebody off duty, because they are still a Police Officer. Basically, if somebody has the power to report you whilst on duty, they'll probably have the same power off duty. I have reported people for offences off duty in my job, too (albeit railway offences as opposed to motoring ones!). As long as you make it clear in the MG11 (Statement) that you were off duty and not in uniform, there's no issue.

Yes, thats my point.They would be more likely to take the word of an officer against yours, but not a regular member of the public.Otherwise we'd all be reporting people we don't like and noone would have a licence.

exel1966

gethro wrote: »

I have been trying to find out what the speed limit is for a 7.5ton lorry.
I normally drive an 18ton lorry but this day was out in a 7.5ton and overtook another vehicle on an A road and the driver reported me to the police for dangerous driving ? ,i now have been issued with a NIP ,i am waiting for the police to phone to discuss the details but need to get this speed thing sorted first


I have looked in a lot of places,gov website,highway code and several other website but keep getting details of upto 7.5tn

• Built up areas - up to 30 miles per hour.
• Single carriageway - up to 50 miles per hour.
• Dual carriageway - up to 60 miles per hour.
• Motorway - up to 70 miles per hour*.

,Exceeding 7.5tn

• Built up areas - up to 30 miles per hour.
• Single carriageway - up to 40 miles per hour.
• Dual carriageway - up to 50 miles per hour.
• Motorway - up to 60 miles per hour.
• The lorry i was driving is 7.5ton not upto or exceeding and i was on a single carriageway road,i think i overtook at about 45 so don't know if i was speeding or not .:eek:

Jackanory !

maninthestreet

gethro wrote: »

Hi
Yes it was another truck,where i over took it was going down a small hill with a broken white line my side,as i overtook i looked in my mirrors waiting for him to flash me in and when he flashed me i think i was starting to climb up the other side of the hill which had a solid line my side.
I believe i was back in before the solid line ,next thing i know i get a NIP as i have been reported for an alledged offence of dangerous driving ignoring road signs and overtaking aproaching a blind bend.
This can only be the other driver reporting me.

So you're not being prosecuted for a speeding offence.
Do you have link to the google streetview for the road the alleged offences took place on?

Hammyman

gethro wrote: »

Hammyman ,your wrong speed limiters have been fitted to most lorrys since 1996 ,we can all learn something new
But if youve been driving 16yrs you SHOULD KNOW THIS

Yawn - this is almost as tedious as it is on Trucknet . I keep up to date with legislation even though I've been out of the industry for 2 years so I'm up to date should I ever want to return. It would appear that it is in fact you who needs to learn something new. EU law was altered a EIGHT YEARS AGO to make speed limiters mandatory on 7.5 tonners with the UK getting a deferment to being applicable from 2008. So basically now, every 7.5t registered from 2001 onwards has to have them.

I await your apology....

http://www.dft.gov.uk/vosa/newsandevents/pressreleases/2005pressreleases/18-01-05newrequirementsforroadspeedlimiters.htm


In November 2002 the European Parliament and Council issued Directive 2002/85/EC which amended the original Directive 92/6/EEC to extend the range of vehicles to which the Directive applies. The Road Vehicles (Construction & Use) Regulations 1986 have now been amended (SI 2102/2004) to incorporate these new requirements which came into effect as of the 1st January 2005.

New Requirements

New vehicles

Goods vehicles over 3,5t (gross design weight), and Passenger vehicles (irrespective of weight) with more than 8 passenger seats, first registered after 1 January 2005 are now required to be fitted with speed limiters.

However, for Goods vehicles (over 3.5t but n/e 7.5t) and Passenger vehicles (with over 8 passenger seats and a design weight n/e 5.0t) used solely within the UK this requirement is deferred to 1 January 2008.

Retro-fit to existing vehicles

There are retro-fit requirements that will apply to Goods (over 3.5t GDW) and Passenger vehicles (over 8 passenger seats - irrespective of weight) that were first registered between 1 October 2001 and 31 December 2004 (inclusive).

Vehicles caught by these requirements will need to be fitted with speed limiters with effect for 1 January 2006, unless the vehicle is being used solely within the UK, in which case the requirement will come into effect on 1 January 2007.

Hammyman

gethro wrote: »

Hi
Yes it was another truck,where i over took it was going down a small hill with a broken white line my side,as i overtook i looked in my mirrors waiting for him to flash me in and when he flashed me i think i was starting to climb up the other side of the hill which had a solid line my side.
I believe i was back in before the solid line ,next thing i know i get a NIP as i have been reported for an alledged offence of dangerous driving ignoring road signs and overtaking aproaching a blind bend.
This can only be the other driver reporting me.

I'd have reported you for doing such a stupid manouvre. Its as bad as that "Road Wars" video of a skip wagon overtaking an artic on the A15 just above Caenby Corner.

iolanthe07

there are plans afoot to fit them to 3.5t and then to all "transit type" vans.

Blimey! The end of white van maniacs on motorways, then?

maninthestreet

Hammyman wrote: »

I'd have reported you for doing such a stupid manouvre. Its as bad as that "Road Wars" video of a skip wagon overtaking an artic on the A15 just above Caenby Corner.

Why was the maneouvre stupid? As long as the OP's vehicle didn't straddle a solid white line, they didn't ignore any road signs prohibitting overtaking, didn't cause another road user to take evasive actions and wasn't actually approaching a blind bend, then I can't see why it should be considered stupid.

somech

forgotmyname wrote: »

Incorrect, 70mph limit. None of our 7.5 ton vehicles were limited to anything less. Mercedes and MAN vehicles could easily exceed.

Limiter only applies to vehicles over 7.5 tons. Unless fitted on a voluntary basis.

incorrect?
http://www.dft.gov.uk/vosa/newsandev...edlimiters.htm