7.5Ton speed limits

gethro

I have been trying to find out what the speed limit is for a 7.5ton lorry.
I normally drive an 18ton lorry but this day was out in a 7.5ton and overtook another vehicle on an A road and the driver reported me to the police for dangerous driving ? ,i now have been issued with a NIP ,i am waiting for the police to phone to discuss the details but need to get this speed thing sorted first

I have looked in a lot of places,gov website,highway code and several other website but keep getting details of upto 7.5tn

• Built up areas - up to 30 miles per hour.
• Single carriageway - up to 50 miles per hour.
• Dual carriageway - up to 60 miles per hour.
• Motorway - up to 70 miles per hour*.

,Exceeding 7.5tn

• Built up areas - up to 30 miles per hour.
• Single carriageway - up to 40 miles per hour.
• Dual carriageway - up to 50 miles per hour.
• Motorway - up to 60 miles per hour.
• The lorry i was driving is 7.5ton not upto or exceeding and i was on a single carriageway road,i think i overtook at about 45 so don't know if i was speeding or not .:eek:

Stigy

gethro wrote: »

I have been trying to find out what the speed limit is for a 7.5ton lorry.
I normally drive an 18ton lorry but this day was out in a 7.5ton and overtook another vehicle on an A road and the driver reported me to the police for dangerous driving ? ,i now have been issued with a NIP ,i am waiting for the police to phone to discuss the details but need to get this speed thing sorted first




I have looked in a lot of places,gov website,highway code and several other website but keep getting details of upto 7.5tn

• Built up areas - up to 30 miles per hour.
• Single carriageway - up to 50 miles per hour.
• Dual carriageway - up to 60 miles per hour.
• Motorway - up to 70 miles per hour*.

,Exceeding 7.5tn

• Built up areas - up to 30 miles per hour.
• Single carriageway - up to 40 miles per hour.
• Dual carriageway - up to 50 miles per hour.
• Motorway - up to 60 miles per hour.
• The lorry i was driving is 7.5ton not upto or exceeding and i was on a single carriageway road,i think i overtook at about 45 so don't know if i was speeding or not .:eek:

"Up to" will include your vehicle. I'm confused as to how you could receive a NIP on the say so of another driver that wasn't a Police Officer. Not sure if VOSA or HATOs can report such an offence, but I don't think they can! Either way, this was just another trucker was it not?

mrbadexample

What speed did your tachograph read at the time of the alleged offence?

Just "another driver" is extremely unlikely to have proof of any offence, so you need to request the evidence.

Quinny_2

http://www.roadtransport.com/RoadLegal/11954/speed-limits-overtaking.html

I would also post your story on TrucknetUK: (Register blah blah blah.)

http://www.trucknetuk.com/phpBB/viewforum.php?f=2

Don't forget though, innocent until proven guilty, and as there seems to be a lack of the relevant speed equipment in use, then ask them to prove the time, date, area, road, witnesses via cctv or otherwise etc. If none of that info is forthcoming, then deny it and say that you weren't in that area/on that road at the time.

It's up to them to prove otherwise.

optimus_primera

Vosa officers cannot enforce the law, although its an offence not to follow thier instructions, so they cannot stop you for speeding.
You can use your Tacho as means of defense, sound like a case of sour grapes if you ask me, someone not liking getting overtaken by a 'lorry' ......

Stigy

optimus_primera wrote: »

Vosa officers cannot enforce the law, although its an offence not to follow thier instructions, so they cannot stop you for speeding.
You can use your Tacho as means of defense, sound like a case of sour grapes if you ask me, someone not liking getting overtaken by a 'lorry' ......

You mean they can't enforce this law...

skiddlydiddly

I knew a copper who reported someone for crossing the solid white line when he was off-duty and they were prosecuted but if its just joe public, why should they believe them anymore thatn you?Especially if you have a tacho to back up what you say.

somech

50mph single carriageway
60mph dual carriageway
70mph motorway but all vehicles built after 2001 over 3.5t will have a speed limiter fitted to 56mph
also being a proffesional driver you have to treat a 7.5t vehicle the same as any other hgv

Stigy

skiddlydiddly wrote: »

I knew a copper who reported someone for crossing the solid white line when he was off-duty and they were prosecuted but if its just joe public, why should they believe them anymore thatn you?Especially if you have a tacho to back up what you say.

It's different if a Police Officer reports somebody off duty, because they are still a Police Officer. Basically, if somebody has the power to report you whilst on duty, they'll probably have the same power off duty. I have reported people for offences off duty in my job, too (albeit railway offences as opposed to motoring ones!). As long as you make it clear in the MG11 (Statement) that you were off duty and not in uniform, there's no issue.

forgotmyname

somech wrote: »

50mph single carriageway
60mph dual carriageway
70mph motorway but all vehicles built after 2001 over 3.5t will have a speed limiter fitted to 56mph
also being a proffesional driver you have to treat a 7.5t vehicle the same as any other hgv

Incorrect, 70mph limit. None of our 7.5 ton vehicles were limited to anything less. Mercedes and MAN vehicles could easily exceed.

Limiter only applies to vehicles over 7.5 tons. Unless fitted on a voluntary basis.

Hammyman

Hand in your licence - you are a disgrace to the industry I spent 16 years in if you can't even work out the speed limits. Professional my backside you are. YOU SHOULD KNOW THEM OFF BY HEART.

BTW forgotmyname, you're wrong. Limiters have been fitted to new 7.5 tonners for a couple of years and there are plans afoot to fit them to 3.5t and then to all "transit type" vans.