Traffic Law? Information needed please

Suzanne_Louise

rooster11 wrote: »

I'm sorry do you have a point to make - If you never commited a crime and you were being punished would you just stand there and take it?....

I dont think so somehow.

If you have nothing positive to add then please dont add anything.

I was adding my advice, they don't pull people over for no reason. I know this very well. Perhaps you have the same attitude as your father, if this is the only sort of answer you can come up with!!!!!!!

vaio

I think the old doctrine of infallibility where the police are concerned has been severely dented by events over the last 30 years.

Nice to see there are still some believers though

Suzanne_Louise

vaio wrote: »

I think the old doctrine of infallibility where the police are concerned has been severely dented by events over the last 30 years.

Nice to see there are still some believers though

I only know from personal experince of previously being in the job and being married to an officer. Therefore, I know how I went about my business and how he currently operates.

mustrum_ridcully

OP your dad swears blind he didn't cross a solid white line, maybe he didn't realise he did (that bit of A4 switches a lot between broken, solid (single and double) white lines?

Like others have said police don't pull people over for no reason at all. I have a feeling that the OP's dad may have done something else wrong. Speed is my gut feeling in Marlborough possibly (it's easy to miss a speed limit sign), if it's not a traffic car then there is no way of getting an accurate enough reading of speed, so they pull the driver over for the offence they can secure a conviction for - the white line.

kwaks

Suzanne_Louise wrote: »

Police officers are not in the habit of pulling people over for no reason. Why can't your father just swallow his pride and admit he was in the wrong, for goodness sake!!!!!!

Wow, this a troll attempt or someone who really is that green!

I have been stopped NUMEROUS times for no reason, other than the bike I am riding or the car I am driving. However I have the right attitude and enough knowledge to not have been "fitted up".

To the OP, does this particular set of solid lines have throwbacks before it?

Stigy

Such an offence will only go to Crown Court if the defendant is found guilty at the Mags court and appeals their decision I believe. This is the only reason such an offence is ever likely to reach Crown Court!

pompeyrich

Suzanne_Louise wrote: »

I was adding my advice, they don't pull people over for no reason. I know this very well. Perhaps you have the same attitude as your father, if this is the only sort of answer you can come up with!!!!!!!

I guess technically you are right, they will always have a reason to stop someone, whether that reason is valid or justified is questionable. As a youngster I used to get pulled over loads, I would be screaming harrasment in this day and age, their reason, I had a Cortina, which could be easily stolen with just about anyting that fitted in the lock and they were just checking it was mine, did they need to search the boot check the tyres etc. to establish it was mine but what can you do? I used to get randomly breath tested, not sure that is even legal now, but they would say I was driving erratically and that was reason enough, who is going to be believed in Court??

To the op I would recommend posting the scenario on Pepipoo, there might be a technical issue with the lines or the approach markings that could be exploited to get off the charge. Otherwise unless your father has a lot of spare cash to throw at the case, I'm afraid he will find out that British justice is not always as fair as we like to think.

rooster11

mustrum_ridcully wrote: »

OP your dad swears blind he didn't cross a solid white line, maybe he didn't realise he did (that bit of A4 switches a lot between broken, solid (single and double) white lines?

Like others have said police don't pull people over for no reason at all. I have a feeling that the OP's dad may have done something else wrong. Speed is my gut feeling in Marlborough possibly (it's easy to miss a speed limit sign), if it's not a traffic car then there is no way of getting an accurate enough reading of speed, so they pull the driver over for the offence they can secure a conviction for - the white line.

My father has been driving this road daily for 25 years - He is a HGV driver by trade so he knows the road pretty well... He was driving his works van before u ask if he was driving a 40 tonner!

My father would not have given the officer attitude because he is simply not like that at all.

He never speeds! Like i said he has had no convictions on his license and i'm sorry but i have also been stopped for no reason before - For having my lights on in the daytime! (which i was once told by an officer was a good thing!) So i know that people DO get stopped for no reason sometimes.

I'm not in the habit of making a big deal out of something if there is no reasoning behind it.

I believe my father implicitly and would go to court with him (if that's what he decides to do) and stand and argue the toss.

I just simply wanted some real information about a subject that has been cropping up a lot lately in my profession! I also believe that sometimes they have targets to fulfill and will randomly stop drivers just to fish about for a real reason....

Like i said - thanks to those who have genuinly helped me, I appreciate it.

rooster11

Suzanne_Louise wrote: »

I was adding my advice, they don't pull people over for no reason. I know this very well. Perhaps you have the same attitude as your father, if this is the only sort of answer you can come up with!!!!!!!

Please - you dont even know me to judge wether i have an attitude.....

My father definatly does NOT have an attitude - He wouldnt hurt a fly! let alone gob off at a police officer!

Stigy

Strider590 wrote: »

It's true, but once pulled over they do treat you a lot worse if you give them attitude. So we can't really say that they're entirely "professional" about it.
However im sure we'd all be same in their shoes.....

It's called, failing the attitude test.

If an offender gave me any grief any good will on my part would go sailing out the window!