Return to What ?

50Twuncle

I am lucky - after 15 months on ESA - I was offered a job working at minimum wage for 16 hours per week for a fixed 6 months - I am now concerned that when the six months are up - I will be refused a return to ESA - on the grounds that I have proved that I can work - but the truth is that I was offered this job to give me some work experience - which the government wants people to do - but when I finish, my chances of finding a REAL permanent job as extremely slim - so any advice welcome ....
I am due to finish in 3 months time.

Oldernotwiser

ESA isn't affected by the likelihood of someone being offered employment but on their ability to do some kind of work.
Congratulations on your improved health and best wishes for the future.

50Twuncle

Oldernotwiser wrote: »

ESA isn't affected by the likelihood of someone being offered employment but on their ability to do some kind of work.
Congratulations on your improved health and best wishes for the future.

That is exactly what I am asking
My health has not improved - I was just offered this job and took it for 6 months, after which time, I will be looking to return to ESA - And as for doing "some kind of work" - Do you not mean "some kind of suitable work" - would you expect a deaf mute to work in a call centre ?

Oldernotwiser

21Twinkle wrote: »

That is exactly what I am asking
My health has not improved - I was just offered this job and took it for 6 months, after which time, I will be looking to return to ESA - And as for doing "some kind of work" - Do you not mean "some kind of suitable work" - would you expect a deaf mute to work in a call centre ?

But if you have been working for 6 months you are obviously capable of working, which I presume you were not when you were claiming ESA. That is why I assumed that your health had improved. If that isn't the case, then perhaps you shouldn't have been been claiming ESA in the first place.

I think you need to be claiming JSA.

Vader123

21Twinkle wrote: »

Do you not mean "some kind of suitable work" - would you expect a deaf mute to work in a call centre ?

Yes!

I know someone who works in a call centre who is deaf.

They do emails, paperwork, online responses.

Do you want to go tell him he can't work there?

Its this limiting of job roles placed on themselves by themselves(ie teetotal working in a bar, vegan working in a place that sells meat etc) that job seekers need to get over.

Vader

50Twuncle

Vader123 wrote: »

Yes!

I know someone who works in a call centre who is deaf.

They do emails, paperwork, online responses.

Do you want to go tell him he can't work there?

Its this limiting of job roles placed on themselves by themselves(ie teetotal working in a bar, vegan working in a place that sells meat etc) that job seekers need to get over.

Vader

Sorry - that was not supposed to be offensive - just trying to get the facts correct.

What I meant was that as a general rule - people cannot be expected to work in a role that would be dangerous or virtually impossible for them to carry out.

What happens if, for example someone was required to work as a roadsweeper and due to a disability - lost their footing and fell under a passing lorry ?

Oldernotwiser

21Twinkle wrote: »

Sorry - that was not supposed to be offensive - just trying to get the facts correct.

What I meant was that as a general rule - people cannot be expected to work in a role that would be dangerous or virtually impossible for them to carry out.

What happens if, for example someone was required to work as a roadsweeper and due to a disability - lost their footing and fell under a passing lorry ?

Nobody's "required" to work as anything specifically. If you're capable of any sort of work, you shouldn't be claiming ESA.

RazWaz

Oldernotwiser wrote: »

Nobody's "required" to work as anything specifically. If you're capable of any sort of work, you shouldn't be claiming ESA.

What does the E stand for? Now the S? Hmm, looks like it could be a benefit for people who could work if they had some extra support.... Oh wait, it is!

Oldernotwiser

RazWaz wrote: »

What does the E stand for? Now the S? Hmm, looks like it could be a benefit for people who could work if they had some extra support.... Oh wait, it is!

That's a very naive take on the way ESA works - particularly for someone who has been already working for some months.

DanE2010

You can work and still claim ESA in some instances, as RazWaz stated, the clue is in the name..........Employment and Support Allowance

Oldernotwiser

The OP didn't say that s/he had been doing permitted work - in fact, as s/he has been doing 16 hours and permitted work has to be fewer than 16 hours, that couldn't be the case.