Stay-at-home parents to lose out in child benefit reform

MissMoneypenny

Rochdale_Pioneers wrote: »

But then again, those of us who remember nonsense like the Dangerous Dogs act already know that.

Just wait until the Liberal peer Lord Redesdale, Dog Control Bill comes in. Those with Saffies and JRTs are already complaining:-)

mvengemvenge

Gorgeous_George wrote: »

Under the old (current) system, the claims only need checking to confirm the number of children . With the new system, the income of both parents needs to be confirmed.

Less staff? That'll work then.

GG

Maybe I misunderstood, I thought it only kicks in if you actually declare you are in receipt of CHB? Thus saving many staff from the cross-checking process? They've made it sound quite a simple system to operate compared to tax credits.

Emy1501

Madness in my opinion and thats from a 2 earner family who isnt going to lose their child benefit but will see one earner families earning less lose theirs.

Basically the government are saying they do not believe in stay at home mums which is going to cause an issue with many of their supporters.

If they had any sense they would have at least made this for after a child reached the age of 5 and started school.

tyllwyd

At the moment my OH is in the higher tax bracket but not by all that much. I work part time so that I can do the school run etc, so I'm a basic rate tax payer. Since he's paying NI and 40% tax on the money he earns above the threshold, and now taking an effective £130 per month net pay cut, we are starting to wonder if he should drop back to 4 days a week (which would make sense for him for health reasons anyway), and I'll increase my hours a bit. It must be one of those situations where he's getting hit by a massive marginal tax increase.

MissMoneypenny

Wookster wrote: »

You mean like the NHS computer system, or the 10p tax rate?

And the C-Nomis 234 million failure or more importantly, The Intergarted Children's System failure, that cost baby P his life.

With CB, I'm wondering if this new government might add that it is too complicated to sort out who can and can't have CB and just cancel it. There as lots of other new benefits for familes now since CB was first instigated.

silvercar

tyllwyd wrote: »

At the moment my OH is in the higher tax bracket but not by all that much. I work part time so that I can do the school run etc, so I'm a basic rate tax payer. Since he's paying NI and 40% tax on the money he earns above the threshold, and now taking an effective £130 per month net pay cut, we are starting to wonder if he should drop back to 4 days a week (which would make sense for him for health reasons anyway), and I'll increase my hours a bit. It must be one of those situations where he's getting hit by a massive marginal tax increase.

Even in the 21st century to seriously progress in your career you need to work full time. So while there may be a short term gain, in the long term you would probably lose out.

chucky

Emy1501 wrote: »

Madness in my opinion and thats from a 2 earner family who isnt going to lose their child benefit but will see one earner families earning less lose theirs.

Basically the government are saying they do not believe in stay at home mums which is going to cause an issue with many of their supporters.

If they had any sense they would have at least made this for after a child reached the age of 5 and started school.

not too long ago the Tories and David Cameron were blabbing on about marriage and relationships and looking after them etc...

He said the "main thing is to support families" in order to combat social problems such as crime and drugs and encouraging marriage in the tax system was part of that.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/8463907.stm

today's move is far from this - cue the Tory party bots to defend today's actions...

Rochdale_Pioneers

chucky wrote: »

the problem is that people like Wookster get to the user's post and can't get past the User Id and disagrees with it...

it's this narrow-mindedness that spoils it and makes him look very simple

I might be a card-carrying member of the Labour Party, but I'm also lucky enough to be a higher rate tax payer with the potential to earn plenty more. So I can understand the complaints from the self-righteous !!!!!! that make up the so-called "middle class" (IMO if you need to work you are working class regardless of job/income) - they say this is unfair because it is. And politically its utter madness. Just because I am a leftie doesn't mean I can't see a policy that howls from a mile away.

LilacPixie

I still cannot get over what a silly silly decision it is.

mbga9pgf

We put up with 13 years of filthy socialism. Time to wake up and sniff the coffee dear.

Anyone can buy a vote with benefits. The coalition are making difficult decisions because thats the right thing to do, something Gordon Brown never bothered to consider.