Stay-at-home parents to lose out in child benefit reform

leveller2911

Rochdale_Pioneers wrote: »

Its very simple. The people upset by this aren't either filthy rich and on the scrounge OR Labour frothers. Go over to the Telegraph or Mail forums - plenty of Tories enraged by what is a patently unfair announcement. So listen very carefully Spaceboy and others.


So one income earner of £45k and the household gets nothing. Two income earners on £42k each and the £84k household gets their child benefits. THAT is the objection - its a joke.

Must agree with you there, its a strange given that 2 incomes in a family earning £42k each will still get CB but one person earning £44k in the family won't............ somethings not quite right there.

Wookster

Rochdale_Pioneers wrote: »

its a joke.

You mean like the NHS computer system, or the 10p tax rate?

Run along now.

leveller2911

Wookster wrote: »

You mean like the NHS computer system, or the 10p tax rate?

Run along now.

Its rare that I agree with Rochdale Pio but I do this time, saying ner ner de ner ner is a bit childish wooky......;)

The guys got a valied point IMO (which counts for little I agree)

milliebear00001

The 'anomally' of a very wealthy, two-parents-in-paid-work familiy receiving CB, while a 'decent-income' single-working-parent-family won't, is bizarre to say the least. Think Osborne will need to batten down the hatches on this one! Will seem intuitively unfair to the vast majority I suspect.

Rochdale_Pioneers

Wookster wrote: »

You mean like the NHS computer system, or the 10p tax rate?

Yes, like those. It would appear - bizarrely - that half baked frack-ups aren't the sole preserve of Labour governments. But then again, those of us who remember nonsense like the Dangerous Dogs act already know that.

You must forgive Wookie. On Planet Wookster the world began in 1997. Which happily means the age of the world is the same as his IQ.

Rochdale_Pioneers

milliebear00001 wrote: »

The 'anomally' of a very wealthy, two-parents-in-paid-work familiy receiving CB, while a 'decent-income' single-working-parent-family won't, is bizarre to say the least. Think Osborne will need to batten down the hatches on this one! Will seem intuitively unfair to the vast majority I suspect.

The Tories have been trying to defend this today as ordered. But from their reported confusion earlier in the day on the policy I think Option 3 of the below scenarios is true:

1. Oik decided this was the right policy as a bear trap for Labour - will they defend benefits for millionaires?
2. Oik has set up this straw man so that he can show his human side later by revising the policy at the same time as announcing the spending cuts.
3. As with the repeated incorrect school building cancellation lists, its a straight frack up by inexperience by supremely arrogant ministers.

leveller2911

Rochdale_Pioneers wrote: »

You must forgive Wookie. On Planet Wookster the world began in 1997. Which happily means the age of the world is the same as his IQ.

Carry on and you will both be sent to sit on the "Naughty stair".........

Gorgeous_George

mvengemvenge wrote: »

Listening to interviews on TV and reading between the lines in articles, I begin to wonder if the Condems have risked the unpopularity of the perverse 44K cut-off for another reason entirely.


Several times now, the issue of the cost (staff) of means testing has been dropped into the conversation. Are the Government risking two weeks of bad headlines because they will be announcing massive job losses in benefit processing staff on Oct 20th? If they won't have the staff to administer the system, another, slightly unpalatable measure (cut-off) had to be found? Just a thought.

Under the old (current) system, the claims only need checking to confirm the number of children . With the new system, the income of both parents needs to be confirmed.

Less staff? That'll work then.

GG

chucky

leveller2911 wrote: »

Its rare that I agree with Rochdale Pio but I do this time, saying ner ner de ner ner is a bit childish wooky......

the problem is that people like Wookster get to the user's post and can't get past the User Id and disagrees with it...

it's this narrow-mindedness that spoils it and makes him look very simple

Gorgeous_George

milliebear00001 wrote: »

The 'anomally' of a very wealthy, two-parents-in-paid-work familiy receiving CB, while a 'decent-income' single-working-parent-family won't, is bizarre to say the least. Think Osborne will need to batten down the hatches on this one! Will seem intuitively unfair to the vast majority I suspect.

The scary thing is that the unfairness (real or perceived - and I think it is real) is blindingly obvious to us commoners.

If the ConDems - and Gideon Osborne in particular - failed to spot the obvious own goal what chance of them getting the Defence of The Realm right?

GG