DO NOT want to start an arguement, genuine question..

Loopy_Girl

Duncombe wrote: »

But its not their money they are spending...

The monies are given to the PWC to use for a contribution towards the upkeep of any children in the house.

So once it comes into the house then actually yes, it is their money.

For you to say what you are saying would also be applicable to say CB and WTC and any other benefits...technically the money from those are the taxpayers - should they also get a full and deailed run down of where money goes? And of course the answer to that is no.

speedster

DX2 wrote: »

Squaddies earn a fair bit every week

yeah right.

i find that a shocking statement when our lads (and lasses) are out getting blown to bits for less than they would earn working in !!!!!!! tescos.

DX2

speedster wrote: »

yeah right.

i find that a shocking statement when our lads (and lasses) are out getting blown to bits for less than they would earn working in !!!!!!! tescos.

:rotfl:So you get over £400 per week working in Tesco do you?

JulietAmber_2

Blob
I quite agree with you and as a NRPP I have had many an argument with CSA over the fact that child tax credit I receive for my children is used as my new partner's income when working out his maintenance payment. The CSA keep saying that my income is not taken into account but our CTC IS my income! He is on CSA 2 and from reading this, I presume CSA1 is a lot harsher.
Maintenance should be worked out on the NRP's pay only and I hope that the new CSA when it eventually comes into force will be fairer.
I am also a PWC and I had to find a job that fits in around my children's school hours - despite having a BA Hons degree! My youngest child has special needs and I can't and won't leave her in an after school club. My income is therefore much lower than if I could work full-time.

shell_542

DX2 wrote: »

:rotfl:So you get over £400 per week working in Tesco do you?

I don't understand the point you are trying to make. Yes, sure there are SOME members of the Armed Forces who will be on £400 a week ... But are you claiming that is the starting/basic pay? Because it is ALOT less than £400 a week!

JulietAmber_2

Don't start me on Tesco!!!! How many billions profit did they make? And where did that profit come from? From us poor consumers that HAVE to buy food and are struggling to make ends meet.

Debicj

Mrs X meets and sets up home with a Lotto winer and has £+++ a big house the lot. His income is not taken into account. Fair or what!!!

Quite simple really, the children are not his. Why should he pay for them?

This causes disputes in our home as although my husband is generous to my kids, I think it is the NRP and my responsibility to provide for them. As I don't get much via the CSA and my only other income is from child benefit (we don't get tax credits because of my husbands income - even though he doesn't 'have' to pay for my kids) sometimes my children can't have everything they want/need, but all the same they are not hard done by. I'm just grateful that my husband is willing to provide for them as I can imagine that some men are not so willing to spend on another man's children.

With regards to the NRPP tax credits being taken into account, it is a bit unfair. Why award it in one hand and take it from the other?

Maybe a fairer system would be to decide an amount that it costs to keep a child - say £50 per week or whatever, then the CSA could just take that amount of maintenance regardless of the level of income of the NRP, unless on a really low income.

gratefulforhelp_2

JulietAmber wrote: »

I understand what you are saying and many PWC abuse the system in this way. But from personal experience and being a PWC aswell as a NRPP -

Many PWC have to put careers on hold to ensure their children are well looked after/picked up from school and there for them in the school holidays. Most NRP can carry on with their careers and continue earning much more money than the PWC and they are only able to do that because the PWC looks after their children.
It seems only fair, therefore, that the NRP pays a fair amount to the PWC to help with this. I know PWC can claim CTC and WTC - but not nearly as much as they could earn working full-time.

I agree with you apart from the bit highlighted in red. If that's true for you, then you are fortunate.
CSA money for my child is less than half of her childcare costs, before paying for anything else.

DX2

shell_542 wrote: »

I don't understand the point you are trying to make. Yes, sure there are SOME members of the Armed Forces who will be on £400 a week ... But are you claiming that is the starting/basic pay? Because it is ALOT less than £400 a week!

A lot more when they are on active duty! Speedster was making a point that squaddies get paid less than Tesco workers, when they are fighting for our country which is untrue. A simple point.

far2812

As a NRP I think we all have to remember that this comes down to the children! I pay my ex a fair amount of money (Not a fortune as he tends to travel to Peru on a monthly basis!!) but I also buy all of my daughter's clothes every season,school uniforms, I pay for school dinners and trips etc.

I think we can provide for our children in other ways other than paying the resident parent. Obviously the children need homes, heating etc but I have taken on the responsibility of "all the other costs", that way there is no argument!