Any mattress recommendations?

Tim_Deegan

Pinkypants wrote: »

You should be able to buy a pocket sprung mattress with that size budget. Go for 1000 springs or more, spring count is always done on a 5ft mattress. So pro rota, 4ft6 will have less, but thats not a worry. 1000 more on 5ft is what to go for.

Thanks for that. It was the one thing that I missed out of my previous long post.

Pinkypants wrote: »

Best advice is to get into the shops and try them out, yes you can buy online and you DO have the right to send it back regradless of their terms and conditions. The distance selling act says that you can inspect the items and if not too your liking you can send them back. But most online companies will make it as hard as possible for you to return.

Actually you are wrong on this one. Under distance selling regs there are certain exceptions for hygiene reasons, and this includes mattresses. So most retailers will not accept mattress returns if you have unpacked and slept on the mattress, and they do legally have the right to do this. However there are some who will accept returns after the mattress has been used. Although they do have certain conditions like having to use a mattress protector, and the mattress still being in perfect condition. It is obviously important to be able to do this, as there is no way that you can try a mattress out properly in a shop, fully clothed, for 10 minutes. You need to be able to sleep on it for a few nights.

battle2000

Hi I have a Laytex matress which has been superb for my back which I broke 10 years ago. It has no springs, but offers complete support, and does not harbour any mites etc. Shop around I got mine from a small local supplier and it was a great price. You get what you pay for...I have practically no back issues since I got this matress. Ive had my laytex matress now for ten years and it has no signs of wear.. hope this helps...:j

Tim_Deegan

battle2000 wrote: »

Hi I have a Laytex matress which has been superb for my back which I broke 10 years ago. It has no springs, but offers complete support, and does not harbour any mites etc. Shop around I got mine from a small local supplier and it was a great price. You get what you pay for...I have practically no back issues since I got this matress. Ive had my laytex matress now for ten years and it has no signs of wear.. hope this helps...:j

Unfortunately they won't get a full natural latex mattress for £400, as latex is very expensive.

Pinkypants

Tim_Deegan wrote: »

Thanks for that. It was the one thing that I missed out of my previous long post.



Actually you are wrong on this one. Under distance selling regs there are certain exceptions for hygiene reasons, and this includes mattresses. So most retailers will not accept mattress returns if you have unpacked and slept on the mattress, and they do legally have the right to do this. However there are some who will accept returns after the mattress has been used. Although they do have certain conditions like having to use a mattress protector, and the mattress still being in perfect condition. It is obviously important to be able to do this, as there is no way that you can try a mattress out properly in a shop, fully clothed, for 10 minutes. You need to be able to sleep on it for a few nights.

I was talking about trying out the mattress, not sleeping on it for a night or two. As for your comment on trying them out in the shop, surely you can get a better idea of what is right for you. Instead of reading loads and loads of information about a mattress and then hoping for the best.

Mattress/bed selection is very very personal, what is right for one is not right for all. We are all different shapes, sizes and weights. What we need in our teens, 20's ,30's can be very different from later in life.

Your body should tell you what you prefer, the most important thing about a mattress/bed is comfort, comfort is number 1 factor.

Tim_Deegan

Pinkypants wrote: »

I was talking about trying out the mattress, not sleeping on it for a night or two. As for your comment on trying them out in the shop, surely you can get a better idea of what is right for you. Instead of reading loads and loads of information about a mattress and then hoping for the best.

Mattress/bed selection is very very personal, what is right for one is not right for all. We are all different shapes, sizes and weights. What we need in our teens, 20's ,30's can be very different from later in life.

Your body should tell you what you prefer, the most important thing about a mattress/bed is comfort, comfort is number 1 factor.

That's why you ask advice from a seller who's interest it is to make sure you make the right choice the first time. And not from sales staff in a shop who are only interested in commission, and don't care about your comfort once the bed has been delivered.

The ONLY way to tell if a mattress is really suitable is to sleep on it for a few nights.

The bed industry is full of hype and gimmicks. And many of these are designed to make a mattress feel extremely comfortable when new, but unfortunately in many cases (especially with pillow tops), this comfort doesn't last.

Pinkypants

Shopping for a mattress is quite easy, do your research online. Decide what type of mattress you would like to try ie Pocket Sprung, Memory Foam, springs and foam etc....

Then find a independent shop, go in ask for the type of mattress that you are looking for. Then ask to be LEFT WELL ONLY while you try the mattresses. Find the one you like, then haggle over the price. Mattresses really should be tried in shop, then you have no worries and hassle about sending one back. A good shop will not hassle you into a sale.

The bed industry does have some sales gimmicks. But a lot of the major brands have done a hell of a lot of research and development into their products. Big rollers continuously rolling over a mattresses to test the strength and durability. One example.

Some smaller companies, just buy all the parts of a mattresses separately and just put them together. Springs check, fillings check, cover check, and a bag and out it goes. Without much knowledge or development.

Tim_Deegan

Pinkypants wrote: »

Shopping for a mattress is quite easy, do your research online. Decide what type of mattress you would like to try ie Pocket Sprung, Memory Foam, springs and foam etc....

Then find a independent shop, go in ask for the type of mattress that you are looking for. Then ask to be LEFT WELL ONLY while you try the mattresses. Find the one you like, then haggle over the price. Mattresses really should be tried in shop, then you have no worries and hassle about sending one back. A good shop will not hassle you into a sale.

The bed industry does have some sales gimmicks. But a lot of the major brands have done a hell of a lot of research and development into their products. Big rollers continuously rolling over a mattresses to test the strength and durability. One example.

Some smaller companies, just buy all the parts of a mattresses separately and just put them together. Springs check, fillings check, cover check, and a bag and out it goes. Without much knowledge or development.

Obviously you work in a bed shop, and so would say that.

The fact is that there is no way to know for sure if a mattress is suitable without sleeping on it. All you can tell is if it is comfortable for 10 minutes in a shop fully clothed. You also have to remember that shops will be far more expensive.

Doing research on line doesn't give you all the answers, as many of the big bed manufacturers run web sites that appear to be independent, but actually recommend their products.

Most of the big bed manufacturers design mattresses to be as cheap as possible to manufacture, and to be somfortable when new (like pillow tops). They don't design them for what is best for the consumer. And they don't design them for long term reliability or comfort. If they designed and tested them for reliability, then then the continuous spring system (like the Miracoil and Posturtech) would not be in production.

Most small independent manufactuers still make them by hand, and take pride in their products.

Who says small manufacturers don't test their products?? That is a bit of a sweeping statement.

Pinkypants

Tim_Deegan wrote: »

The fact is that there is no way to know for sure if a mattress is suitable without sleeping on it.

I agree 100% with that statement.

But you get a much better indication if the mattress is suitable for yourself if you try them. What happens if you buy a mattress online and get the one thats not correct for you.

You have the hassle of stripping of the bed clothes, dragging the wrong mattresss downstairs. Dragging the new one upstairs re-dressing the bed and hoping that the 2nd mattress is the right one.

You wouldn't buy a brand new car without test driving it 1st!

Tim_Deegan wrote: »

You also have to remember that shops will be far more expensive.

Yes most are, they have to pay for the lights, the building, rates etc...But at least you can TRY the products out. Sometimes it's worth paying a little extra to get service and convience of trying the product.


The only way to know which product is right for you is to try them. No one can say which mattress is suitable for your needs. Comfort is so subjected, what is right for one is not right for all. Sometimes a cheap open coil mattress, that gets replaced more often, is most suitable for the customers NEEDS at that time.

I have sold a rock solid pocket sprung mattress to customers that are quite slightly built. But thats what they wanted, thats what they like. Who am I to say no don't buy that product.
(By the way rock solid pocket matts defeat the object of being pocket sprung).
Yes I did tell the customers the above statment.

Tim_Deegan wrote: »

Who says small manufacturers don't test their products?? That is a bit of a sweeping statement.

I didn't, I said SOME smaller companies.



If we carry on buying online, the high streets will die off. Is that what we want in life, major supermarkets as shops and that's it?

Pinkypants

Tim_Deegan wrote: »

Obviously you work in a bed shop, and so would say that.

And you sir obviously have an online store selling a product thats hard to find elsewhere, that you seem very keen to promote all the time.

Very crafty way of getting customers. Cheaper then advertising on the web thats for sure.

Tim_Deegan

Pinkypants wrote: »

And you sir obviously have an online store selling a product thats hard to find elsewhere, that you seem very keen to promote all the time.

Very crafty way of getting customers. Cheaper then advertising on the web thats for sure.

I don't hide the fact that I am in the business. But I don't promote anything on MSE. I just give general advice about what is good design, and what is just gimmicks. There is nothing that I sell that you can't find elswhere.

You however have so far promoted 5" deep memory foam mattresses, and Sleepeezeee, which is a very good indication that the advice you give is very poor.