New employee doing same job as me earning more money

jobunny

Hi

Just found out yesterday that my company are hiring someone who will be doing the same job as me and getting £3000 extra salary than me. Ive been with the company 8 years and have worked damn hard making my way up from receptionist to middle management. Ive been told on numerous occassions that there is no money left in the wages pot to accommadate any staff for a payrise. We now have new management who have taken on two new members of staff in the last 2 weeks..one of them being the person earning more than me. Can i add that i found out due to my manager leaving the new persons new starter forms on the desk for everyone to see!..not by asking any questions or being nosey! ...how am i suppose to manage a team alongside this new guy knowing that his earning more than me! feel like my team will lose respect for me as surely if head office dont think im worth that salary they surely wont!

UnoriginalGuy_2

Your new team will lose respect for you because they know how much everyone is getting paid? What?

Have you ever heard the concept that pay increases are earned while employed but only paid when you change employment?

The fact is you aren't willing to change jobs or you'd already have a better offer sitting in front of you that you could take to your boss - so why pay you more? What is the motivation?

They might be better qualified than you. You have no idea. All you know is that they're making more money and do the same job. They might have ten years experience and a masters degree for all you know.

Long story short you have two choices:
1) Change Jobs
2) Ask for more money

Or secret option no.3:
3) Try to change jobs, and then leverage that to ask for more money

Any

You don't ask, you don't get.
Sometimes you ask and still don't get.

Two reasons for that - either you are not worth it, or they are too sure with themselves and think that you will stay never the less.

Why do you think people change jobs? You are not the first or the last person to find yourself in this situation...

If they are too sure with themselves and think you will stay then show them they are wrong. Quite often people find better paid job, put notice in and suddenly find that their old job is willing to offer anything to make them stay..

But don't go telling them you will leave without actually having another job lined up just in case they will let you go..

987654

are you female & the new person male?

equal pay legislation may help if you are doing the same work.

UnoriginalGuy_2

987654 wrote: »

are you female & the new person male?

equal pay legislation may help if you are doing the same work.

Because Equal Pay Legislation only works in a male Vs. female situation where the male is getting paid more?

I love how this is the "go to" thing now when any pay differences arise. Obviously 100% of all pay difference in the private sector are entirely down to gender discrimination...

987654

UnoriginalGuy wrote: »

Because Equal Pay Legislation only works in a male Vs. female situation where the male is getting paid more?

I love how this is the "go to" thing now when any pay differences arise. Obviously 100% of all pay difference in the private sector are entirely down to gender discrimination...

Not 'obviously', it's a question that needs an answer in order to advise the OP.

hannahO_2

If I were you, I'd get an advice from someone who specialises in employment law or CAB for unfairness. Then you could confidentially discuss the matter with your boss about your findings (not necessarily how you found out). It would be just between you and your boss, if gosship spreads to the whole organisation, you know who spilled the beans

KiKi

hannahO wrote: »

If I were you, I'd get an advice from someone who specialises in employment law or CAB for unfairness.

But there's nothing, as yet, to suggest this is unfair.

KiKi

pimento

*Glad she doesn't work for UnoriginalGuy*

zzzLazyDaisy

KiKi wrote: »

But there's nothing, as yet, to suggest this is unfair.

KiKi

Actually, OP refers to working up from receptionist. Most (admittedly not all) receptionists are female. The new person is a man. If they are both doing the same work, or work of equal value, then OP may have a case for unlawful sex discrimination.

OP you can find out more about you rights and your employers obligations from the EHRC, who will give you free advice and information. What you do with that information is up to you, but at least you will know where you stand, legally, when negotiating with your employer

http://www.equalityhumanrights.com/

SarEl

zzzLazyDaisy wrote: »

Actually, OP refers to working up from receptionist. Most (admittedly not all) receptionists are female. The new person is a man. If they are both doing the same work, or work of equal value, then OP may have a case for unlawful sex discrimination.

OP you can find out more about you rights and your employers obligations from the EHRC, who will give you free advice and information. What you do with that information is up to you, but at least you will know where you stand, legally, when negotiating with your employer

http://www.equalityhumanrights.com/

And of course - and with the greatest respect for zzzLazyDaisy, but just to mollify the dinosaurs who hang out here occasionally - the opposite applies too. If the new employee were female and the complainant a man earning less, it could still give rise to an equal pay claim. The legislation does not exist solely for women to make claims against men - equality is equality for both. Unfortunately the law does not allow for anyone to claim equal pay without a comparator of the opposite gender - not very fair, but a fact. Perhaps it should?