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OMG son's Landlord has just threatened violence!
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sal-ad_daze wrote: »The Police have rung ds tonight (are coming to see him tomorrow) but did say to him that it is a civil matter.
Threats and unlawful eviction are not a "civil matter".
Get back on the blower to PC Plod, and calmly, politely and firmly tell him to look at the 1977 Act, and unlawful eviction.
Speak to the local council, too, ASAP....much enquiry having been made concerning a gentleman, who had quitted a company where Johnson was, and no information being obtained; at last Johnson observed, that 'he did not care to speak ill of any man behind his back, but he believed the gentleman was an attorney'.0 -
Rainmaker_uk wrote: »Call me old fashioned but I think you and your son are bang out of order.
Rather than call you "old-fashioned", I'd call you "stupid".
Breaking the law, threatening a baby, ranting at the tenants' parents, what's OK about that?...much enquiry having been made concerning a gentleman, who had quitted a company where Johnson was, and no information being obtained; at last Johnson observed, that 'he did not care to speak ill of any man behind his back, but he believed the gentleman was an attorney'.0 -
Taking the information provided here at face value (which i would add anyone would be ...stupid for doing so as when people tell stories they are always one sided) then whats happened is pretty nasty.
He doesnt have a right to involve violence...
But reading between the lines the landlord looks to have been:
1. Witheld rent for a couple of months from both tenants and the guarntors (sp?) most likely not the first time had difficulty
2. Desperate to get back into property as (old fashionedly) someone agreed to pay him.. and they have reneged on this agreement (the OPs son and friend)... and unfortunately the way the legal system is set up at the moment and in this case he has little power to get his property back or rent monies owed in any sort of reasonable time frame (4-5 months +)
Reading between lines for Tenants:
1. Not paid rent...
2. Refused to answer door to landlord and probably other communications previously .. (why else would you ... have to bang loudly? unless someone who owed you money was trying to ignore you?)
3. Probably 'sexed up'/exaggerated slightly or alot the information we seen in this thread.
Basically take things with a pinch of salt, if whats true the landlord sounds stupid but desperate... and really is guilty of being owed money and being powerless to get said money
I dont condone what hes been doing but ultimately it sounds like from these rose tinted glasses that he has been severely messed around by BOTH tenants and BOTH gurantoors (sp?).
What he SHOULD have done was to take the gurantoors and tenants to court for monies owed joint and severely liable... which is what he still should do.
Regarding the aggressive behaviour he should put his business hat on and just sue gurantoors for missing rent (OP). I believe thats why you get guarntoors as the tenants are seem as risky tenants who are most likely going to try and screw you over for your rent money... basically good moral members of the society who value their commitments..... not.
But it would be interesting to see what happens at the end of this
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we have only heard 1 side of the story here, but still doesnt excuse the actions in any circumstances.
it sounds like this is a chump landlord who hasnt done things properly from day 1.
using the deposit for the first rent etc, not following the proper channels re non-payment.
he has got desperate and he's showing it.
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neverdespairgirl wrote: »Rather than call you "old-fashioned", I'd call you "stupid".
Breaking the law, threatening a baby, ranting at the tenants' parents, what's OK about that?
Yes but rainmaker_uk wants to play at being an amateur landlord (they've mentioned wanting to get a BTL) and I guess isn't aware of all the legal responsibilities a LL has... https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/comment/37024718#Comment_37024718"One thing that is different, and has changed here, is the self-absorption, not just greed. Everybody is in a hurry now and there is a 'the rules don't apply to me' sort of thing." - Bill Bryson0 -
OMG !?! Has Mum got any updates about LL and sons flat? is anyone helping you ?
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Taking the information provided here at face value (which i would add anyone would be ...stupid for doing so as when people tell stories they are always one sided) then whats happened is pretty nasty.
He doesnt have a right to involve violence...
Reading between lines for Tenants:
1. Not paid rent...
2. Refused to answer door to landlord and probably other communications previously .. (why else would you ... have to bang loudly? unless someone who owed you money was trying to ignore you?)
3. Probably 'sexed up'/exaggerated slightly or alot the information we seen in this thread.
The boys have never refused to answer the door to the LL, in fact they have waited in for him time and time again and he's not shown up.
He only communicates by mobile phone, mostly texts so they don't ignore communication, he's never written them a formal letter.
Believe me, if anything I've 'undersold' this whole experience.
I have 'broadcast' the details that are needed to explain this predicament, I choose not to share personal details which could add more detail here.0 -
OMG !?! Has Mum got any updates about LL and sons flat? is anyone helping you ?
Bonny
I tried ringing the CAB all day yesterday but couldn't get through.
We're waiting for a Police visit this morning so after they've been we'll have to go and sit and wait at our local CAB and hopefully get an appointment pretty soon.
I'm also going to ring the local council private tenants people after the Police visit but that's all I can do as far as I know.
We're all just completely shaken and shocked at how this has happened.
I just wish I could make it all go away.0 -
sounds a bit dodgy if paying by cash!!he could claim at any time that you haven't paid him.good luck in getting it sorted.0
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Rainmaker_uk wrote: »Call me old fashioned but I think you and your son are bang out of order.
You/your son owe this man money. He has a mortgage to pay what makes you think you have the right to mess him about like this?
Owing money doesn't mean you should be threated and abused.
You're bang out of order if you think that.0
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