Car ownership proof dilemma

lordFSA

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Kilty_2

V5 is not proof of ownership - her dad owns it and has every legal right to it.

mikey72

Everyone always says the V5 is not proof of ownership, but it's a good start, as there is no other document available, especially if it was given to her.
However possesion is what counts.
Her name is on the V5, it was a gift, just go round and drive it away.

olly300

This should actually be in the family and relationships forum as going around and driving the car away will lead to a family dispute.

Your gf needs to think of another option to get the car back which won't cause a family rift.

mikey72

I think if her dad has took the car back, and making her walk, or catch the bus as he doesn't like her boyfriend, the rift may already have a great lake in it as well.

gordikin

Emotions aside who bought and paid for the car..there will be a paper trail!

mikey72

There won't be a paper trail if it was bought as a present, my kids never get me to sign over anything, they usually just snatch my arm off with it.

Wig

Kilty wrote: »

V5 is not proof of ownership - her dad owns it and has every legal right to it.

What absolute rubbish!

Where is your evidence to give such a definitive reply?

To OP,

Yes she has a very good claim to the car. After all negotiations have broken down, if you have a spare key and it is available to be taken, just go and take it. If that fails then she can claim its value in the small claims court (how much is the car worth?)

But if it were me I would be tempted to just sign the car over to him and never speak to him again.

spiro

Wig wrote: »

What absolute rubbish!

Where is your evidence to give such a definitive reply?

I quote from a current DLVA leaflet:

What is the V5C?
[FONT=Helvetica 55 Roman,Helvetica 55 Roman][FONT=Helvetica 55 Roman,Helvetica 55 Roman]The V5C is a vehicle Registration Certificate. It:[/FONT]
[/FONT][FONT=Helvetica 55 Roman,Helvetica 55 Roman][FONT=Helvetica 55 Roman,Helvetica 55 Roman]n [/FONT][/FONT][FONT=Helvetica 55 Roman,Helvetica 55 Roman][FONT=Helvetica 55 Roman,Helvetica 55 Roman]shows the vehicle’s registered keeper [/FONT][/FONT][FONT=Helvetica 55 Roman,Helvetica 55 Roman][FONT=Helvetica 55 Roman,Helvetica 55 Roman](this is the person or company who keeps the vehicle, not necessarily the legal owner)[/FONT][/FONT][FONT=Helvetica 55 Roman,Helvetica 55 Roman][FONT=Helvetica 55 Roman,Helvetica 55 Roman]; [/FONT]
[/FONT][FONT=Helvetica 55 Roman,Helvetica 55 Roman][FONT=Helvetica 55 Roman,Helvetica 55 Roman]n [/FONT][/FONT][FONT=Helvetica 55 Roman,Helvetica 55 Roman][FONT=Helvetica 55 Roman,Helvetica 55 Roman]gives the keeper’s name and address, the vehicle’s registration number and other information about the vehicle; and[/FONT]
[/FONT][FONT=Helvetica 55 Roman,Helvetica 55 Roman][FONT=Helvetica 55 Roman,Helvetica 55 Roman]n [/FONT][/FONT][FONT=Helvetica 55 Roman,Helvetica 55 Roman][FONT=Helvetica 55 Roman,Helvetica 55 Roman]is issued each time we update our records after details have changed. [/FONT]
[/FONT]
Buying a used vehicle
n [FONT=Helvetica 55 Roman,Helvetica 55 Roman][FONT=Helvetica 55 Roman,Helvetica 55 Roman]You should not buy a vehicle without a V5C[/FONT][/FONT][FONT=Helvetica 55 Roman,Helvetica 55 Roman][FONT=Helvetica 55 Roman,Helvetica 55 Roman]. If the vehicle is not registered in the name of the seller, or the seller does not have a V5C, ask why.[/FONT]
[/FONT][FONT=Helvetica 55 Roman,Helvetica 55 Roman][FONT=Helvetica 55 Roman,Helvetica 55 Roman]n [/FONT][/FONT][FONT=Helvetica 55 Roman,Helvetica 55 Roman][FONT=Helvetica 55 Roman,Helvetica 55 Roman]Before you buy a vehicle, check that the seller is entitled to sell it. If you are not sure, you should not buy it. [/FONT][/FONT][FONT=Helvetica 55 Roman,Helvetica 55 Roman][FONT=Helvetica 55 Roman,Helvetica 55 Roman]Remember, the V5C is not proof of ownership[/FONT][/FONT][FONT=Helvetica 55 Roman,Helvetica 55 Roman][FONT=Helvetica 55 Roman,Helvetica 55 Roman].[/FONT]
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As you can see they clearly state at least twice that the V5C is not proof of ownership. Note the text is bold is in bold in the leaflet, I have not made it bold to highlight the relevant section.

mikey72

spiro wrote: »

I quote from a current DLVA leaflet:

What is the V5C?
[FONT=Helvetica 55 Roman,Helvetica 55 Roman][FONT=Helvetica 55 Roman,Helvetica 55 Roman]The V5C is a vehicle Registration Certificate. It:[/FONT]
[/FONT][FONT=Helvetica 55 Roman,Helvetica 55 Roman][FONT=Helvetica 55 Roman,Helvetica 55 Roman]n [/FONT][/FONT][FONT=Helvetica 55 Roman,Helvetica 55 Roman][FONT=Helvetica 55 Roman,Helvetica 55 Roman]shows the vehicle’s registered keeper [/FONT][/FONT][FONT=Helvetica 55 Roman,Helvetica 55 Roman][FONT=Helvetica 55 Roman,Helvetica 55 Roman](this is the person or company who keeps the vehicle, not necessarily the legal owner)[/FONT][/FONT][FONT=Helvetica 55 Roman,Helvetica 55 Roman][FONT=Helvetica 55 Roman,Helvetica 55 Roman]; [/FONT]
[/FONT][FONT=Helvetica 55 Roman,Helvetica 55 Roman][FONT=Helvetica 55 Roman,Helvetica 55 Roman]n [/FONT][/FONT][FONT=Helvetica 55 Roman,Helvetica 55 Roman][FONT=Helvetica 55 Roman,Helvetica 55 Roman]gives the keeper’s name and address, the vehicle’s registration number and other information about the vehicle; and[/FONT]
[/FONT][FONT=Helvetica 55 Roman,Helvetica 55 Roman][FONT=Helvetica 55 Roman,Helvetica 55 Roman]n [/FONT][/FONT][FONT=Helvetica 55 Roman,Helvetica 55 Roman][FONT=Helvetica 55 Roman,Helvetica 55 Roman]is issued each time we update our records after details have changed. [/FONT]
[/FONT]
Buying a used vehicle
n [FONT=Helvetica 55 Roman,Helvetica 55 Roman][FONT=Helvetica 55 Roman,Helvetica 55 Roman]You should not buy a vehicle without a V5C[/FONT][/FONT][FONT=Helvetica 55 Roman,Helvetica 55 Roman][FONT=Helvetica 55 Roman,Helvetica 55 Roman]. If the vehicle is not registered in the name of the seller, or the seller does not have a V5C, ask why.[/FONT]
[/FONT][FONT=Helvetica 55 Roman,Helvetica 55 Roman][FONT=Helvetica 55 Roman,Helvetica 55 Roman]n [/FONT][/FONT][FONT=Helvetica 55 Roman,Helvetica 55 Roman][FONT=Helvetica 55 Roman,Helvetica 55 Roman]Before you buy a vehicle, check that the seller is entitled to sell it. If you are not sure, you should not buy it. [/FONT][/FONT][FONT=Helvetica 55 Roman,Helvetica 55 Roman][FONT=Helvetica 55 Roman,Helvetica 55 Roman]Remember, the V5C is not proof of ownership[/FONT][/FONT][FONT=Helvetica 55 Roman,Helvetica 55 Roman][FONT=Helvetica 55 Roman,Helvetica 55 Roman].[/FONT]
[/FONT]
As you can see they clearly state at least twice that the V5C is not proof of ownership. Note the text is bold is in bold in the leaflet, I have not made it bold to highlight the relevant section.

Everyone always quotes that as well.
Doesn't prove you don't own it either, and you'd be hard pushed to prove the person named on the V5 stole it back from her dad.
(now if it was on finance, and the finance company had sent the bailiffs round, then there would be a case for the owners not being the registered keepers, but not in a domestic dispute)

spiro

mikey72 wrote: »

Everyone always quotes that as well.
Doesn't prove you don't own it either, and you'd be hard pushed to prove the person named on the V5 stole it back from her dad.
(now if it was on finance, and the finance company had sent the bailiffs round, then there would be a case for the owners not being the registered keepers, but not in a domestic dispute)

Would she be prepared to state in court that she bought the car and was the legal owner? I doubt it. Does the dad have a receipt for purchasing the car? Possibly.