Money Moral Dilemma: Should I sell her my car?

royogsxr

FelinePrincess wrote: »

Not all lapdancers are like this, yet some are incredibly irresponsible and she sounds like one of them ones.. She might not have lost it due to drink driving, could have been speeding or something else but either way she has had it taken off her for something serious.

Loved the way your imagination just went stratoshperic at the mention of exotic dancer. All she does is take her kit off and dance about for a living, yet you have her down as public enemy no.1
She might be irresponsible to say that she will not sort out the correct documents to drive, but that ain't anything to do with what she does for a living is it?
MP's think they can speed with impunity, and that sounds just as irresponsible to me. they can rob the country but they are still looked up to. That's not irresponsible, that's criminal.
Anyway, back to the point, the Exotic dancer bit was put in to catch out judgemental people like you, and you gave me a laugh dear.

taylor56

I would sell her the car, your not responsible to ensure she has insurance, license etc but i would then inform the police so that she is dealt with and your up £650. Winner

make-do=and-mend_2

tabbycat2k wrote: »

Nope, I wouldn't sell her the car. Uninsured, untaxed drivers are why our insurance premiums are so high.

I totally agree. Last week I bought a new TV in Costco and had to provide the TV Licence holder's details which, I assume, will be sent straight to the TV Licence people!

huggermugger

It's a no from me, Simon...

Absolutely no dilemma here for me. It's a basic principle - you know what she intends to do so if you provide her with the means to do it, you are as culpable as she is. We all have a moral (and sometimes legal) obligation to prevent people from doing things which may harm themselves or other people. Would you give the keys of a car to someone you know to be drunk? Would you give a loaded gun to someone who has violent or suicidal tendencies?

How would you feel if she has an accident which robs someone of their livelihood or their life? You can't make her buy insurance or sort out her licence but you can make sure you don't condone her decisions by selling her the car.

Too many of us shrug off our responsibilities to other people and to our communities with the "Not my problem" excuse. No amount of money would salve my conscience in this situation. I would simply say "I'm sorry, but I just can't do it." If she takes offence, so be it.

Not sure why the "exotic dancer" info was thrown in - maybe to expose people's predjudices??

huggermugger

mentat72 wrote: »

Hmm, this is a good one..

Sell her the car, let the money clear, call the police, get the community action trust reward (£250?) for declaring an illegal driver, say you'll look after her flat while she's serving her time, rent it out, make sure they're out before she comes back, tidy her flat, she'll be happy, go out for dinner and make sure she pays.

She learns her lesson, she learns the value of money, you make a packet.

Everyone's a winner, actually, no, that'd be just you.

:rotfl:You've got to admire the brain that came up with this - presume you are a multi millionaire business person!!!

rwgray

If she can afford £1,500 for a £650 car then why can't she afford insurance? And the replacement licence only costs £20! I'd be less concerned about the licence but wouldn't want anyone to be driving without valid insurance. The minimum acceptable cover is less even that third party - just the level required by the relevant RTA (Road Traffic Act) and I think most would agree that without this a call to Crimestoppers would be unfortunate but justified. Imagine a relative needing £950,000-worth of lifetime care after an accident and all the driver responsible has to offer is a damaged car and a deduction from earnings as an exotic dancer...

Badger_Lady

rwgray wrote: »

If she can afford £1,500 for a £650 car then why can't she afford insurance?

Because she's (almost certainly) under 25
Because her occupation is "dancer" (entertainment category, not covered by mainstream insurers)
Because her place of occupation is "nightclub"

That's without knowing her driving history.

hazyjo

So does that mean she shouldn't be expected to pay? There's obviously a reason insurance is so high for people in certain jobs. And, no, I'm not being judgemental on what she does for a living.

I just get sick of doing everything by the book and paying my way and feeling mad as hell when I hear (to my face, especially) of someone taking a free ride. What makes them exempt? Why should the rest of us fund them?

Absolutely no reason why she can't get (prebooked) taxis home and find other transport to get there (when it's obviously earlier and apparently safer). Don't know why the taxi option's not being flagged up more often. Seems like blatant logic to me.

Jx

eternal_optomist

'It's not your problem,' she said. She is entirely correct. Her transport problems are not your responsibility. Nor is her 'lost' driving license or her 'secret' about proposing to drive illegally, ie without insurance. She's subliminally spreading the blame for her own lack of organisation and wish to push the boundaries onto you.
Remember, its your car, and your choice who you sell it to- thus her problems are certainly not yours!

thelife4me

Very simple. She is an adult. Sell her the car and report her. I have done it several times. No insurance, Tax, Licence and grassed in few drink drivers. One crashed on the motorway at more than 80mph just in front of me, girlfriend and baby in the car. I stopped and helped the guy until he asked me what he was going to do cos he was "out his face" and stinking of drink, I grassed him in. within a few minutes the helicopter was overhead and he was found a few fields away up to his waist in mud. He said he was out looking for his car cos it was stolen. I had to identify him. If we had been 50 yards further up the road it would have been a differant story. None of us are are perfect but even if you dont sell the car i would contact the police. You then have a clean conscience.