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Useless jobs still being recruited for in the civil service

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  • ILW
    ILW Posts: 18,333 Forumite
    ninky wrote: »
    for pretty much anything that religious humans would put down to 'god' you can replace with the concept of evolution.

    Even Wayne Rooney?
  • robpw2
    robpw2 Posts: 14,044 Forumite
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    ILW wrote: »
    What do you put on the council forms that ask for such information? (apart from sod off and mind your own business)
    as i say they will self define - why do you feel the need to classify them anyway


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  • ninky_2
    ninky_2 Posts: 5,872 Forumite
    ILW wrote: »
    Even Wayne Rooney?


    no. he was crafted by hobbits from playdough.
    Those who will not reason, are bigots, those who cannot, are fools, and those who dare not, are slaves. - Lord Byron
  • ILW
    ILW Posts: 18,333 Forumite
    robpw2 wrote: »
    as i say they will self define - why do you feel the need to classify them anyway

    Unless they can be classified, how can the person on £60k at the council know which department to refer them to.
  • bendix
    bendix Posts: 5,499 Forumite
    robpw2 wrote: »
    as i say they will self define - why do you feel the need to classify them anyway


    To work out if we can discriminate against them or not, obviously.
  • bendix
    bendix Posts: 5,499 Forumite
    Back to the OP, is it morally right or morally wrong to discriminate against marklv?
  • ninky_2
    ninky_2 Posts: 5,872 Forumite
    bendix wrote: »
    Back to the OP, is it morally right or morally wrong to discriminate against marklv?

    is he discrimination vulnerable?
    Those who will not reason, are bigots, those who cannot, are fools, and those who dare not, are slaves. - Lord Byron
  • robpw2
    robpw2 Posts: 14,044 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture Combo Breaker
    ILW wrote: »
    Unless they can be classified, how can the person on £60k at the council know which department to refer them to.
    they self define .. meaning they will tell you .. you do not have to worry about it


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  • kabayiri
    kabayiri Posts: 22,740 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 10,000 Posts
    Erm, there is another point to this.

    Nearly £60K for a coordinator type role?

    London has gone truly barking.

    How must lower paid engineers and scientists feel valued by our society when they see this.
  • LydiaJ
    LydiaJ Posts: 8,083 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture Combo Breaker Mortgage-free Glee!
    edited 16 September 2010 at 9:24PM
    I don't think there's anything in marklv's OP to indicate that he dislikes or disapproves of LGBT people as such. Of course, it's entirely possible that he does - he seems to despise a lot of the people he doesn't want government to spend money on. But all he's actually said is that he thinks the council would be better spending its money on police than on these two jobs that other (more moderate and generally respected posters) have described as overpaid compliance roles.

    You don't have to be anti a particular group to be anti spending money on promoting that group. I've come across initiatives to promote women that I've found patronising and have regarded as a waste of money. Clearly that doesn't mean I'm anti-women. I do know that discrimination happens and I do want to be protected against it, but I'm perfectly happy to share protection with other people - as somebody else has suggested, one equality person should be able to deal with women, minority faiths, LGBT etc; we don't need separate officials for each vulnerable group. (And no, my choice of Lydia as a pseudonym wasn't intended to deceive - I am female in RL too.)

    ETA Since I have marklv on ignore I have only read his OP and not any of his other posts on this thread, so for all I know he may have made his views clearer.
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