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chucky wrote: »

the word Bendix used before, "coloured" is a normal daily description for some people in South Africa, used in the UK it could be considered un-PC or some people may call it racist.

Bendix? That's a cooker not a person!

bendix

chucky wrote: »

no - it's not racist.

it may depend which country or culture you're in.

the word Bendix used before, "coloured" is a normal daily description for some people in South Africa, used in the UK it could be considered un-PC or some people may call it racist.

there are very, very few racist people, i believe more people are prejudiced than racist.

But hang on. You can't have it both ways. It's either morally right or morally wrong to think that homosexuals should be stigmatised. If a culture alien to ours has it entrenched that homosexualilty is wrong and gays can be hanged (Iran for example), are we not guilty of disrespecting that belief system.

If an Iranian is hanging a homosexual, which one should you support?

And - more importantly - who gave us the moral authority to think we're any righter (or wronger) than Iran?

I've got a headache.

bendix

ninky wrote: »

"discrimination vulnerable" might be better.

NOOOO!

You didn't just say that, did you?

You're just trying to wind me up, arent you, you little minx?

ILW

bendix wrote: »

But hang on. You can't have it both ways. It's either morally right or morally wrong to think that homosexuals should be stigmatised. If a culture alien to ours has it entrenched that homosexualilty is wrong and gays can be hanged (Iran for example), are we not guilty of disrespecting that belief system.

If an Iranian is hanging a homosexual, which one should you support?

And - more importantly - who gave us the moral authority to think we're any righter (or wronger) than Iran?

I've got a headache.

That sort of question does tend to tie the PC types up in knots.
I had to go on a diversity course many years ago and when the question about if a Muslim man is in a care home and refuses to be cared for by a woman is this considered sexism and should it be allowed or encouraged by the local authority. I should imagine it is even more of a puzzle now with gay rights issues.

chucky

bendix wrote: »

But hang on. You can't have it both ways. It's either morally right or morally wrong to think that homosexuals should be stigmatised. If a culture alien to ours has it entrenched that homosexualilty is wrong and gays can be hanged (Iran for example), are we not guilty of disrespecting that belief system.

If an Iranian is hanging a homosexual, which one should you support?

And - more importantly - who gave us the moral authority to think we're any righter (or wronger) than Iran?

I've got a headache.

you can't judge and i would never do so.

Jamaican men hate and despise homosexuals, violence against gay men is frequent. it's accepted. it wouldn't be in the UK.

British men hating and despising homosexuals isn't the norm and. they may not be comfortable with them but they don't hate them. i don't think many men would be violent towards a gay man.

which is right i don't know. i prefer the 2nd option of not disliking anyone and allowing people to do what they want.

ILW

Trouble is that a lot of this is about legislation, in general you cannot just make a law that says everybody has to be nice to each other.

bendix

chucky wrote: »

British men hating and despising homosexuals isn't the norm and. they may not be comfortable with them but they don't hate them. i don't think many men would be violent towards a gay man.

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You've obviously never been to Essex on a Friday night.

I think your answer is a (n understandable) cop out. Moral right or moral wrong is just that - it cannot be geography dependent.#

It can't be right to murder muslim daughters for bringing disgrace in Afghanistan, and wrong to do the same thing in the UK.

So what is it? Right or wrong? And who decides?

bendix

ILW wrote: »

Trouble is that a lot of this is about legislation, in general you cannot just make a law that says everybody has to be nice to each other.

Don't tell that to ninky. You'd break her heart.

chucky

bendix wrote: »

You've obviously never been to Essex on a Friday night.

I think your answer is a (n understandable) cop out. Moral right or moral wrong is just that - it cannot be geography dependent.#

It can't be right to murder muslim daughters for bringing disgrace in Afghanistan, and wrong to do the same thing in the UK.

So what is it? Right or wrong? And who decides?

point missed Bendix

you do not judge

you yourself decide if it's right or wrong for you

ILW

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