beware if you dont disclose all information

peter999

Anthillmob wrote:

you cant. every case you look at you have to fill in a form. if you dont you get a bum kicking.

When handing in HB Renewal form, they said they will check I am on JSA
via their "direct link" (to job centre/benefits/DWP -not sure ??)

-is this direct link the same as system you have been talking about ??
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Anthillmob

most probably yes if they have been given the system. it is only just being rolled out to LAs and i dont know the time scale on when each LA will be getting it.

dont be alarmed people, we will not and are not allowed to abuse this syetm.

believe me if i could look myself up i would but id get a smacked bum even for that.

elisebutt65

Well I have to change my claim twice a year, being a full time student and I always take all my documents - CTC, bank statements, IS claim letters etc, in with me for them to photocopy anyway.

My Bank statements show all benefits being paid in and any savings I have
(£53) at the minute - RAFLMOA!!!

I have no problem with this and if it means micalculations are avoided, then I'm all for it!!!

napoleon

where would I find out about the dwp 'disposal of assets' clauses? I can't find it on their site . cheers

healy

napoleon wrote: »

where would I find out about the dwp 'disposal of assets' clauses? I can't find it on their site . cheers

You may get a better response if you start a new thread as this one is nearly 2 years old.

dippy3103

LA's can now access a system that gives tax credit information- just the amount in payment and if it is WTC or CTC. There always has been an LA helpline that we could ring for this information. Like Anthill says, snooping in records that you have not got official reason to look at would be a very serious diciplinary matter. Data matching has been around for a very long time that would identify undeclared tax credits but NOT incorrect amounts.
Whenever an HB/CTB customer gets a revised tax credit award they should inform the LA (as with all other changes in circs) as it can cause an overpayment and is actually an offence to fail to do so.
As an aside, on the subject of the access to bank accounts. This is only done by fraud officers when making enquiries into suspected fraud. It is not done lightly and involves submitting a very long form to an authorised officer exlaining why is it required, how it is proportionate and how not having the information would prejudice an investigation.
We have been able to require information from an employer and/or landlord since at least 1992, but again only if it is justified and required for the purposes of benefit administration.

lilac_lady

Why doesn't everyone who claims a benefit (me too, State Pension) be checked via the computer "talking" to banks' computers? If you've made an honest claim I don't see what the problem is.

I_know_my_ABC_and_my_CMYK

Anthillmob wrote: »

and before anyone asks i cant look anyone up. thats naughty and breaks all sorts of rights acts including the human rights act. la's can only look at the specific case they are dealing with.

so dont worry, we wont be delving unless we are dealing with your particular case.

another thing, dont know if anyone in the past has used quickcalc but that is now passworded for la's use only.

Do people actually ask you to do this?:eek:

I_know_my_ABC_and_my_CMYK

dippy3103 wrote: »

LA's can now access a system that gives tax credit information- just the amount in payment and if it is WTC or CTC. There always has been an LA helpline that we could ring for this information. Like Anthill says, snooping in records that you have not got official reason to look at would be a very serious diciplinary matter. Data matching has been around for a very long time that would identify undeclared tax credits but NOT incorrect amounts.
Whenever an HB/CTB customer gets a revised tax credit award they should inform the LA (as with all other changes in circs) as it can cause an overpayment and is actually an offence to fail to do so.
As an aside, on the subject of the access to bank accounts. This is only done by fraud officers when making enquiries into suspected fraud. It is not done lightly and involves submitting a very long form to an authorised officer exlaining why is it required, how it is proportionate and how not having the information would prejudice an investigation.
We have been able to require information from an employer and/or landlord since at least 1992, but again only if it is justified and required for the purposes of benefit administration.

Are you actually saying here that some claimants of IS etc are also claiming tax credits which are for working? How can they do this? They must be either very stupid or think they are totally above the law.

Stella66

If the LA's can access all the Data from DWP and Tax Credits, surely the claims will be dealt with much quicker than what is happenning now. Why will they ask you to fill in a 20 page booklet, and supply them with the original copies of all the information which they can look up from the DWp, Tax Credits database and from your bank and employer.