Suspended from work - I've seen colleagues and customers what I have done

Jacey53

Don't know if anyone has touched on this, but what you have done amounts to a criminal offence and you could be prosecuted.

The value may be small but this is a breach of the trust placed in you by your employer, which makes it more serious than if a customer were to do something similar.


I suggest you stop making excuses (and annoyingly inconsistent ones at that), just admit your part to your employers and grovel a lot. You are very likely to be dismissed and any future refence will reflect the reason.

Leave the employer to investigate others involved (by the way there is probably an alerter on their EPOS system). Keep away from any shops belonging to this company - you don't want to be humiliated by being publicly banned.

If the police are brought in, get qualified legal advice straight away - before you are interviewed. You want to avoid being charged if possible (you may end up being cautioned).

When you apply for other jobs, keep away from anything involving money - they are very likely to turn you down.

And has been said before, if you ever find yourself tempted like this again - don't.

I really do wish you the best of luck for the future.

Mischa8

steve1980 wrote: »

*picking myself up of the floor from laughing so much*

If you think a supermarket that size goes belly up if you (who can't use the self scan system properly due to dyslexia and vision problems) are not there then perhaps this rather large Blue Chip company should be closing down that particular store.

If I was you I'd give up now, any more digging you'll be in Australia!!

:rotfl:

I was like OP in the past (in admin jobs) - and with one company I did make the silly mistake of thinking I was worth more than I was to them (a company of about 50 people).

Believe me - no-one likes you to think (ie management don't like the proles to think) that they're superior to them.

This came about, really because in my 2nd job, I was bullied, forced to resign due to ill-health and this was way before proper employment rules were in place. I was informed *after* I'd left that job that my bully was subsequently found out and given verbal/written warnings as she'd been bullying other colleagues too. In another job I was sexually assaulted and dismissed (only been there a few months) - I was very young - about 21 and was told by my mother's solicitor it would be very hard to prove if I took legal action so I cut my losses and left.

In the job referred to in 1st para - I do think I had a stupidly self-inflated opinion of myself, I took this opinion into yet another job and left, unhappily after 18 months. This opinion doesn't help a worker one iota and ultimately alienates a colleague from fellow colleagues yet I knew of a few people who have this opinion of themselves and carry it through everyday life.

Now I'm in a newish permanent job and keep my head down, opinions to myself and thank god I actually have a permanent job after 2 years of temping and worrying about work and being unemployed for 2 months this year.

Sorry OP - but you do seem incredibly naive. Do you really think that as a checkout girl (sorry to be condescending) that you're not easily replaced? of course you are! Your managers may/may not have more qualifications than you but they certainly seem to have 2nd senses when it comes to fraud, which this is, albeit minor.

I'd eat humble pie here, if I were you and admit everything and not blame others.

joanne_d_3

I said it in one of my posts earlier on and now im going to say it again.....

Op , if you think that you are irreplaceble then you are deluded (i mean that in a nice way lol)

My husband worked in a factory.....maybe 30 men working there and there was one particular role which involved skill to complete.

My husband (even if i do say so myself) was top class in this role. Seriously NO-ONE else could even know where to begin using the machinery that this job required . Hubby had been the ONLY employee within the factory to carry out this role for fifteen years , even the three members of management within the factory had no idea how to carry out this role.

If my husband was off sick for any length of time , he went back to work when he recovered and the work had come to a total stand still because without my hubby there to do "role A" , the other workers were unable to start on role B , C , D etc.....

Didnt stop his employers summarily dismissing him this time last year !!!

Hubby , in due course was replaced (after the factory went to pot for a lot of months after his dismissal lmao) but please op , let our situation show you that if you are found guilty of gross misconduct , length of service or excellent customer service skills wont save you !

I get the impression you think you are invincible .

jumpycheese1

Again sorry for any conflicting information I have given. It has been a shock to the system. I have not been thinking straight at all. If you have been suspended at work, you know where I am coming from

These next few days will allow me time to think and put a constructive view from it. I know I have done wrong. I will be fighting for my job. I don't want to be dismissed and I cannot afford to be unemployed again! I have been made redundant three times in 2.5 years and I hated every minute of it. Waking up every morning with the feeling 'What's the point?'.

Up to today, I was at my most happiest since I can remember. Now I am feeling so down.

BTW to the posters who mention my eye condition and dyslexia as excuses I am offended by your comments. I didn't have these conditions on purpose. Nobody is perfect. My UR knows about my conditions. My employer can go through my medical notes. I haven't heard of my eye condition before I was diagnosed with it. As mentioned again I DID disclose these on my medical form when I first started to work for my employer and the could see that I did sign and date it.

Dyslexia affects people in different ways.

Also I have used ss tills at other stores and they are the worst for eye glare than the others. At least when I am working at a manned till I can tilt the screen at a position to suit me and my eyes.

If they find others - my store and other stores' colleagues doing the same, my employer should treat everyone the same. If they don't, that's very unfair.

There is a colleague that works at the next store down the road and larked about breaking £800 on tvs on purpose. Did he get suspended? No Did he get displinary action? No! Deliberating breaking goods is gross misconduct too. How do I know about this lad? A colleague who now works at my store saw it happen.

I know I am replaceable and not invicible, but somehow the dept cannot cope without me!

Errata

What other workers do or don't do is none of your business, and if you'd realised this you wouldn't be posting "they did it, so I did it as well".

joanne_d_3

[/QUOTE]I know I am replaceable and not invicible, but somehow the dept cannot cope without me


Ok jumpy...if this is truely what you think...

If you have convinced yourself that your employer is just going to allow you to commit and get away with gross misconduct then whats the point of keeping asking for advice ?

Post back when you have had your disciplinary.

Felicity

Before you speak to your employer again, you clearly need to decide:-

1. Did you do this on purpose, because in training you were told it would be possible and because others were / are doing it and because a chap in another store broke a telly ...

OR

2. Because you are disabled and you weren't aware you were committing fraud?

It is EITHER one or the other.

If it is answer 2, then you need to come up with a good reason as to why you were using the SS till knowing you were putting yourself / your employer at risk of committing / being a victim of fraud.

shegirl

jumpycheese1 wrote: »

Again sorry for any conflicting information I have given. It has been a shock to the system. I have not been thinking straight at all. If you have been suspended at work, you know where I am coming from

These next few days will allow me time to think and put a constructive view from it. I know I have done wrong. I will be fighting for my job. I don't want to be dismissed and I cannot afford to be unemployed again! I have been made redundant three times in 2.5 years and I hated every minute of it. Waking up every morning with the feeling 'What's the point?'.

Up to today, I was at my most happiest since I can remember. Now I am feeling so down.

BTW to the posters who mention my eye condition and dyslexia as excuses I am offended by your comments. I didn't have these conditions on purpose. Nobody is perfect. My UR knows about my conditions. My employer can go through my medical notes. I haven't heard of my eye condition before I was diagnosed with it. As mentioned again I DID disclose these on my medical form when I first started to work for my employer and the could see that I did sign and date it.

Dyslexia affects people in different ways.

Also I have used ss tills at other stores and they are the worst for eye glare than the others. At least when I am working at a manned till I can tilt the screen at a position to suit me and my eyes.

If they find others - my store and other stores' colleagues doing the same, my employer should treat everyone the same. If they don't, that's very unfair.

There is a colleague that works at the next store down the road and larked about breaking £800 on tvs on purpose. Did he get suspended? No Did he get displinary action? No! Deliberating breaking goods is gross misconduct too. How do I know about this lad? A colleague who now works at my store saw it happen.

I know I am replaceable and not invicible, but somehow the dept cannot cope without me!

Of course they can cope without you...a replacement would do the same job!

No offence to the job you do,but you work on a checkout yes?There are many many people who can be trained to do the same.There are many employees there who can do the same.Just because you got an award and have been well rated by mystery shoppers does not mean the store or department will fall to it's feet without you.Seriously,get the idea of them not being able to cope without you out of your head.You're easily replacable!

poet123

jumpycheese1 wrote: »

Again sorry for any conflicting information I have given. It has been a shock to the system. I have not been thinking straight at all. If you have been suspended at work, you know where I am coming from

These next few days will allow me time to think and put a constructive view from it. I know I have done wrong. I will be fighting for my job. I don't want to be dismissed and I cannot afford to be unemployed again! I have been made redundant three times in 2.5 years and I hated every minute of it. Waking up every morning with the feeling 'What's the point?'.

Up to today, I was at my most happiest since I can remember. Now I am feeling so down.

BTW to the posters who mention my eye condition and dyslexia as excuses I am offended by your comments. I didn't have these conditions on purpose. Nobody is perfect. My UR knows about my conditions. My employer can go through my medical notes. I haven't heard of my eye condition before I was diagnosed with it. As mentioned again I DID disclose these on my medical form when I first started to work for my employer and the could see that I did sign and date it.

Dyslexia affects people in different ways.

Also I have used ss tills at other stores and they are the worst for eye glare than the others. At least when I am working at a manned till I can tilt the screen at a position to suit me and my eyes.

If they find others - my store and other stores' colleagues doing the same, my employer should treat everyone the same. If they don't, that's very unfair.

There is a colleague that works at the next store down the road and larked about breaking £800 on tvs on purpose. Did he get suspended? No Did he get displinary action? No! Deliberating breaking goods is gross misconduct too. How do I know about this lad? A colleague who now works at my store saw it happen.

I know I am replaceable and not invicible, but somehow the dept cannot cope without me!

You have had a lot of good advice on here, and it seems much of it has gone over your head. Any dept can, and will, manage without anyone....your "friends" will not be seen for dust when the !!!! hits the fan, your eye condition and dyslexia will not be seen as mittigating cicumstances, your contention that it is commonplace will count fo nothing.

Your only way forward is to accept that you are guilty of gross misconduct, and ask your employers for clemency because of the amounts involved. It is by no means asssured that you will keep your job, what is assured is that if you evidence the head in sand, optimistic approach you are showing here it will do you no good at all.

Face up to what you did, face up to the fact that you, and you alone, are in the frame for this, and that only you can get yourself out of this. Dont bluster, dont prevaricate, you did wrong, own up and face the consequences.

Good luck.

minnie123

So when you did it it was a mistake due to your disabilities - what about the other staff whos names you wrote down who were doing it - can you see how these 2 things don't correlate??