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Extra £4bn welfare cut

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-11250639
The government is planning to reduce the annual welfare bill by a further £4bn, Chancellor George Osborne has told the BBC.

He will give details of the savings, which follow an £11bn cut made in June, in October's spending review.

The Treasury says the targets for the reductions are still being discussed.

But Mr Osborne told BBC political editor Nick Robinson that those making a "lifestyle choice to just sit on out-of-work benefits" would be affected.

He described the welfare budget as "completely out of control".
The combined £4bn and £11bn cuts represent about 6% of total spending in the area.

Apparently a "lifestyle choice to live on benefits" is coming to an end.

Which, in my mind, is a good thing.

But depends really on what's cut. All I do know is for the next couple of days, we will probably hear lots of poverty and absolute outrage stories.

And of course, huge amounts of toff insults.

Anyone have any ideas on what they may announce?
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  • bendix
    bendix Posts: 5,499 Forumite
    Woooo hoooooo. More good news from the government.

    Personally, I can't wait for this October public sector spending review. Benefits cut, ridiculous public services ravished, non-jobs discarded. Add to that the positive impact such moves will have on sterling and the stockmarket, and it's all good.
  • Graham_Devon
    Graham_Devon Posts: 58,560 Forumite
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    bendix wrote: »
    Woooo hoooooo. More good news from the government.

    Personally, I can't wait for this October public sector spending review. Benefits cut, ridiculous public services ravished, non-jobs discarded. Add to that the positive impact such moves will have on sterling and the stockmarket, and it's all good.

    Me too. Would booking the day off work so I can watch the announcements on everything and outrage after the initial announcement be a little sad?! :p
  • amcluesent
    amcluesent Posts: 9,425 Forumite
    >Anyone have any ideas on what they may announce?<

    No representation without taxation? :j
  • Mr_Mumble
    Mr_Mumble Posts: 1,758 Forumite
    Is it fair to call nominal increases 'cuts' if the 'cut' is a drop in a future projection of payouts? Based on the emergency budget social security benefits are to rise by an annualised rate of 2.8% over the lifetime of this parliament. There are many employees who'd be happy with that kind of rise!
    "The state is the great fiction by which everybody seeks to live at the expense of everybody else." -- Frederic Bastiat, 1848.
  • tomterm8
    tomterm8 Posts: 5,892 Forumite
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    Mr_Mumble wrote: »
    Is it fair to call nominal increases 'cuts' if the 'cut' is a drop in a future projection of payouts? Based on the emergency budget social security benefits are to rise by an annualised rate of 2.8% over the lifetime of this parliament. There are many employees who'd be happy with that kind of rise!

    Not sure exactly what you intend to say, but this is an additional reduction in benefits on top of what was in the budget. It is only the start; the conservatives and Liberal Democrats are clearly going to reduce benefits further.
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  • dori2o
    dori2o Posts: 8,150 Forumite
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    The only worry is that yet again they will target the wrong people, i.e. those who are disabled (and I don't mean the bad back brigade) and truly have no way of returning to work, whilst those who know how toplay the system will continue to get away with it.
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  • olly300
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    bendix wrote: »
    Personally, I can't wait for this October public sector spending review. Benefits cut, ridiculous public services ravished, non-jobs discarded.

    Unfortunately it doesn't work like that. If you are non-job manager you will ensure that your department is reorganised so you have a job.
    I'm not cynical I'm realistic :p

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  • Mr_Mumble
    Mr_Mumble Posts: 1,758 Forumite
    tomterm8 wrote: »
    Not sure exactly what you intend to say, but this is an additional reduction in benefits on top of what was in the budget. It is only the start; the conservatives and Liberal Democrats are clearly going to reduce benefits further.
    Sorry, poor communication :o.

    Social Security Benefits for:

    2009-10 = £163.7bn
    2010-11 = £169.3bn
    2011-12 = £174.2bn (£170.2bn if this reported £4bn cut is for next year).

    There is no 'reduction' in benefits per se.

    The reason I bring up this seemingly pedantic point is because of threads in the Money Saving Arms regarding benefits - there is a lot of vitriol surrounding cuts. Anyone who caught yesterday's thread on Ian Cameron (now deleted) will know there is a lot of hatred surrounding plans for the benefits system so its important the media get their reporting right imho.
    "The state is the great fiction by which everybody seeks to live at the expense of everybody else." -- Frederic Bastiat, 1848.
  • Huzzah! That's all I have to say.
  • drc
    drc Posts: 2,057 Forumite
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-11250639

    Anyone have any ideas on what they may announce?

    Perhaps child tax credits/child benefit? Stop the incentive that gives rise to unwanted children in the hope of more unearned income?

    I reckon The Guardian will have numerous articles decrying the heartless Capitalists.
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