Landlord wants to show around new tenants.

black-saturn

I bet the OP doesn't get his deposit back.

Debt_Free_Chick

black-saturn wrote:

Thats against the law I think. The tenant still has the right to say no so it makes no difference anyway.

What's the difference between nej's solution

We let out a few places on behalf of my brother-in-law and we put a clause in sayint something like "you will let us show people around at a mutually convenient time".

Nobody has ever had a problem with it and most have been happy for us to do it when they weren't there. Obviously we ask their permission first.

And yours

It states in every tenancy that the tenant is entitled to quiet and private enjoyment of the property and this includes the times that the landlord wants to show prospective tenants round. If it's not convenient say so and they don't have to be let in. Also say you would like advance warning so that you don't have people knocking on your door unexpectedly.

????

Both seem to suggest that if it's convenient and if the tenant & the LL agree, then it's allowable

And I'm sorry, but this

If you want more time there are a few things you can do to stall a prospective tenant like point out every damp patch, crack in the plaster etc etc. If your friendly with the neighbours ask them to have rap music blaring out and place the odd mouse trap down where they can see it. But you didn't hear me say that :A :eek:

Is plain spiteful. What on earth would it achieve? Particularly for a tenant who has given notice to vacate the property? I would go so far as to suggest that anyone doing all of this would find themselves in the firing line for a case of harrassment - brought by the LL!!!

black-saturn

Debt_Free_Chick wrote:

Is plain spiteful. What on earth would it achieve? Particularly for a tenant who has given notice to vacate the property? I would go so far as to suggest that anyone doing all of this would find themselves in the firing line for a case of harrassment - brought by the LL!!!

I agree it will achieve nothing for someone who has already somewhere to move to. But if your waiting to be rehoused or can't find anywhere to live and you have children to consider anything that gives you more time is worth it.

Gorgeous_George

I would expect my tenants to be reasonable. In return, I would be reasonable when it came to deciding if any deposit should be repaid or if a reference was needed.

Just be reasonable and the problem dispappears whatever the rights and wrongs.

Your Landlord or the next tenant may be MSEers.



GG.

real1314

black-saturn wrote:

I agree it will achieve nothing for someone who has already somewhere to move to. But if your waiting to be rehoused or can't find anywhere to live and you have children to consider anything that gives you more time is worth it.

But the OP hasn't said they have had a bad time with the landlord have they?

So why treat someone (the landlord is a person too) in such an aggravating manner? Perhaps the LL should then try to find out where the tenant is moving to and tell the new LL (if it's rented) what's gone on - and then the OP gets turfed before they move in?

People need to remember that there are two sides to situations like this and that a bit of give and take in all things makes life much less stressful.

black-saturn

No but I included it in the post for someone who may be doing a search on the matter in the future.

Someone who is facing going into a hostel for the homeless because the landlord is selling up may need to buy some more time. Council housing is very thin on the ground and courts will give leeway to the tenant if the house is still unsold when it goes to court. I've been there with 2 small children so I know what it's like. Until you have and you know what it's like I'm afraid you can't comment.

A_Nice_Englishman

As a Landlord, what do you do if you write to your tenants asking them to phone you to arrange a mutually convenient time to visit the property and they don't respond? The mobile number they gave is dead and there is no landline.

Yes, this has happpened to me. The tenants have given their notice and I have decided to sell. I want to see what needs doing to the property to get it ready for sale and have estate agents round to give valuations.

If only they'd responded, I would probably have offered it to the tenants for a good price

amboy

I must say that as a LL i find advice that is given to the OP by Black Saturn et al to be simply obstructive.

When giving advice I think it is always helpful not to use you past bad experiences to cloud peoples judgement.

Debt Free Chick is spot on IMO.

To sum it up the tenant has given notice and had it clarified with LL, why then do people assume OP wont get deposit back etc ???

The LL is faced with having a property to let, in every tenancy it will say in the last 28 days the LL or agent can show people round with reasonable notice.

Today is Monday and he has told you that on Saturday he will be showing someone around, 5 days notice is more than enough by anybodys standards.

It is down to the OP to pin a time slot down if they insist on being there, and not listen to the drivel about peaceful enjoyment etc.

linfield

Legally, the tenant does not have to let anyone view the property while they are still in residence, and the Landlord is not allowed to let himself in without the tenants permission.
However, most reasonable Landlords and Tenants would have no problem coming to an agreement. Part on good terms and you should get good references.
Anyway, both Landlord and Tenant might want to due business again in the future.
You never know.

Tony

jyonda

amboy wrote:

It is down to the OP to pin a time slot down if they insist on being there, and not listen to the drivel about peaceful enjoyment etc.

Nice sentiment. I wonder how you'd feel if it was your rights/ privacy being infringed? We are going through a similar scenario except the LL is selling up and unfortunately we'd rather not have EA's and buyers coming round at all. It's bad enough when it's your own home being sold but when you've actually paid for the service of living in rented accomodation then I believe you've the right to say who comes in or not. You are the customer.

I don't have anything against the LL and don't mind co-operating but we've a baby and a toddler and viewings will certainly be disruptive. For some reason I imagine there will be a lot more buyers wanting to see the place than there would be tenants if the LL was continuing to rent. Also by selling the LL is almost certainly going to have a void period of indefinite length anyway so why inflict hoardes of buyers on us? I know how much they paid for it and I know how much they will want for it and believe me they can afford to do without my rent for a few weeks...