MSE Parents Club Part 14

bexta

Morning

fingers crossed still for Susan

Krystal, that sounds like a lovely birthday treat for your hubby.

Does anyone with a roughly 3-4 month old find their baby is obsessed with munching on their hands? Sophie is always eating her hands, I've tried offering other things for her to gum, but she only wants her hands.

ladybirdintheuk

Morning all. Just a flying post, but Susan I hope you feeling grotty is a good sign, hugs to GISI (and anyone else who wants them) and Som, it might be worth posting over in the jobs & employment board, but I thought if you did a request to adjust your hours due to now being a mum they weren't allowed to change your ts & cs (so of course they are going to pay you for less hours because you are working less hours, but not less per hour as well). I could be wrong, but I would definitely look into it if I were you!

tiamai_d

Hopes Susan doesn't have a bug

GISI hope you feel better soon.

Sarah, I'd cut some of the feed, give it to him after breakfast and introduce milk with snacks during the day.

Bexta, ALL of them are obsessed with their hands! LOL. Then they discover their feet. Then toys.

gill_81uk

SJ - no advice on the being sick but just wondering what the HV had been doing to upset you?

We got T weighed yesterday and he's dropped to nearer 25th centile than 50th but I'm not worried as he's superactive and rolls all over the floor now. She thinks he's ready to wean and wants me to go back in 2 weeks and if he's not jumped up we'll start then. I said ok but have no intention of doing so unless I feel he's ready, only 2 weeks after that till he's 6 months anyway. I love the way you lot have given me the conviction to do what I want rather than blindly following the hv

eta som - i dont think they can cut your hourly pay either

workinmummy

SJ - Could the being sick thing, have something to do with Alfie being Snotty? He could have a build up of snot and grot in the morning and it's causing him throw the milk back up first thing?

Also hope Susan is sick for a very good reason.

bexta

Gill, it seems like a lot of HV don't pay much attention to the 'official' guidelines does it? A lot of kids lose weight once they start being more active and wriggly like T. Glad you feel confident enough to use your mummy judgement!

I'm not 100% sure about waiting until 6 months yet, we'll see how she is, but I'm not going to rush into it.

Tia, she adores staring at her feet already, though hasn't yet worked out how to get them in her mouth - probably won't be much longer though! Yikes, can't believe how quickly the little ratfink's growing - 13 weeks today

Sarah_Joanne

gill_81uk wrote: »

SJ - no advice on the being sick but just wondering what the HV had been doing to upset you?

We got T weighed yesterday and he's dropped to nearer 25th centile than 50th but I'm not worried as he's superactive and rolls all over the floor now. She thinks he's ready to wean and wants me to go back in 2 weeks and if he's not jumped up we'll start then. I said ok but have no intention of doing so unless I feel he's ready, only 2 weeks after that till he's 6 months anyway. I love the way you lot have given me the conviction to do what I want rather than blindly following the hv

eta som - i dont think they can cut your hourly pay either

Sounds like the HVs round here. DO you remember the last time I went they pi55ed me off saying Alfie was too small, dropped 2 centiles, blah blah, I should wean early or force an extra mik feed into him?

Well thjis time he stayed on the same line (2nd centile) and she starts off by telling me I don't need to worry now, I of course reply (whilst struggling to get tired, hungry Alfie back into his clothes after we'd been waiting there almost an hour) that I wasn't ever worried about him, so she asks me if he's "better now". Better? I ask, there was never anything wrong with him!

She then asks whether he was weaning during the "dropping" but of the chart to which I reply, no I waited until he was 6 months. She then said that sometimes when they are ready to wean (which I read as "you should have weaned him then as he was ready") they can go off their milklied with, he wasn't off his milk though, and he never lost any weigh, he's just small.

She asked how weaning was going and I said great, he's eating steak and yorkshire puddings, to which she laughed! I then spoke, to Alfie, saying yorkshire pudding's your favourite isn't it?! She then asked if he was having some finger foods then, so I said only finger foods. She then said oh BLW, and is that going ok then? Err, YES!


I really ought to have mentioned that he loves his milk, and is still bf, but I was too annoyed so I just left.

Before she came to me she was telling the woman before me that her baby had put on quite a lot of weight since last time and she had to come back in 2-3 weeks to make sure baby was not puttng on too much weight.

She never asked how he was generally, never asked if he was chatting and babbling (he does, all the time), never asked if he can crawl (he can), never asked if he was pulling himself up and cruising (he can), never asked if he sleeps ok (he does). It just seems all they are interested in is the bloody weight charts!

Alfie's not even skinny, if they ever measured his height they'd see he's small on there too, just small in proportion.

What worries me is that other mums who may not be so confident in knowing when their baby is ok will take everything the HV says to heart. What if the woman before me limits the milk she gave her daughter becasue she was so worried about the HV saying the baby was putting on too much weight?! I think it's just a really irresponsible way to go about things.

Sorry, I bet you wished you'd never asked!!!! Thsi is whay I didn't mention it on here when it happened as I knew I'd just rant

Sarah_Joanne

workinmummy wrote: »

SJ - Could the being sick thing, have something to do with Alfie being Snotty? He could have a build up of snot and grot in the morning and it's causing him throw the milk back up first thing?

Also hope Susan is sick for a very good reason.

Don't think so, it's been going on quite a bit longer than the snottyness

SusanC_2

Sarah_Joanne wrote: »

Sounds like the HVs round here. DO you remember the last time I went they pi55ed me off saying Alfie was too small, dropped 2 centiles, blah blah, I should wean early or force an extra mik feed into him?

Well thjis time he stayed on the same line (2nd centile) and she starts off by telling me I don't need to worry now, I of course reply (whilst struggling to get tired, hungry Alfie back into his clothes after we'd been waiting there almost an hour) that I wasn't ever worried about him, so she asks me if he's "better now". Better? I ask, there was never anything wrong with him!

She then asks whether he was weaning during the "dropping" but of the chart to which I reply, no I waited until he was 6 months. She then said that sometimes when they are ready to wean (which I read as "you should have weaned him then as he was ready") they can go off their milklied with, he wasn't off his milk though, and he never lost any weigh, he's just small.

She asked how weaning was going and I said great, he's eating steak and yorkshire puddings, to which she laughed! I then spoke, to Alfie, saying yorkshire pudding's your favourite isn't it?! She then asked if he was having some finger foods then, so I said only finger foods. She then said oh BLW, and is that going ok then? Err, YES!


I really ought to have mentioned that he loves his milk, and is still bf, but I was too annoyed so I just left.

Before she came to me she was telling the woman before me that her baby had put on quite a lot of weight since last time and she had to come back in 2-3 weeks to make sure baby was not puttng on too much weight.

She never asked how he was generally, never asked if he was chatting and babbling (he does, all the time), never asked if he can crawl (he can), never asked if he was pulling himself up and cruising (he can), never asked if he sleeps ok (he does). It just seems all they are interested in is the bloody weight charts!

Alfie's not even skinny, if they ever measured his height they'd see he's small on there too, just small in proportion.

What worries me is that other mums who may not be so confident in knowing when their baby is ok will take everything the HV says to heart. What if the woman before me limits the milk she gave her daughter becasue she was so worried about the HV saying the baby was putting on too much weight?! I think it's just a really irresponsible way to go about things.

Sorry, I bet you wished you'd never asked!!!! Thsi is whay I didn't mention it on here when it happened as I knew I'd just rant

This is why I never bothered taking Alice to be weighed.

But I always thought that weighing them was a pretext to get you along so that they could keep an eye on the other things you mentioned too.

If I weigh myself at various times throughout the day and before and after meals etc. I find that I can vary by half a stone. I would expect babies would vary by at least a similar proportion (if not more because they seem to eat loads more relative to their body weight than an adult does) which would have a significant effect on what centile they are on. I think frequent precise weighing of healthy babies with no indications that they might need weighing is counterproductive and creates a lot of unecessary stress for parents.

Krystaltips

The new guidelines actually state that HV should be available and weighing shouldn't be an "in" with them... I think a lot of parents put a lot of importance on weight gain too though and while people want to know which line the baby is following the situation isn't going to change any time soon...