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  • ILW
    ILW Posts: 18,333 Forumite
    FTBFun wrote: »
    The Daily Mail do a good job of pandering hate, but that's about it.

    Would you rather that families getting £100k pa in benefits was kept a secret?
  • FTBFun
    FTBFun Posts: 4,273 Forumite
    ILW wrote: »
    Would you rather that families getting £100k pa in benefits was kept a secret?

    No. I was referring to the angle the DM puts on most of its stories.
  • ILW
    ILW Posts: 18,333 Forumite
    FTBFun wrote: »
    No. I was referring to the angle the DM puts on most of its stories.

    I do read the Mail sometimes amongst other papers, but have never noticed it "pandering hate". Do you have any examples?
  • FTBFun
    FTBFun Posts: 4,273 Forumite
    Not to hand. Anything that can be blamed on immigrants, asylum seekers or gypsies often fits the bill, justified or not.
  • ILW
    ILW Posts: 18,333 Forumite
    FTBFun wrote: »
    Not to hand. Anything that can be blamed on immigrants, asylum seekers or gypsies often fits the bill, justified or not.

    Odd the way people make complaints about something, and then cannot come up with a single example.
  • FTBFun
    FTBFun Posts: 4,273 Forumite
    ILW wrote: »
    Odd the way people make complaints about something, and then cannot come up with a single example.

    Probably because I don't have an archive of every article from the DM to hand? Nor the time to look for one.
  • Graham_Devon
    Graham_Devon Posts: 58,560 Forumite
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    FTBFun wrote: »
    Probably because I don't have an archive of every article from the DM to hand? Nor the time to look for one.

    Archive: www.dailymail.co.uk

    Time: Time spent posting ;)

    The DM I don't believe panders hate. It is, however, outspoken. Hence being the highest read newspaper site.

    It's also pretty good with creating headlines.
  • ILW
    ILW Posts: 18,333 Forumite
    FTBFun wrote: »
    Probably because I don't have an archive of every article from the DM to hand? Nor the time to look for one.

    So what to you base your assertion that they "pander to hate" on?
    Not being funny, just trying to establish why you feel that way.
  • ILW
    ILW Posts: 18,333 Forumite
    Graham_Devon wrote: »
    Archive: www.dailymail.co.uk

    Time: Time spent posting ;)

    The DM I don't believe panders hate. It is, however, outspoken. Hence being the highest read newspaper site.

    It's also pretty good with creating headlines.

    Thanks for the link, couldn't immediatley see any hate mongering though.
  • FTBFun
    FTBFun Posts: 4,273 Forumite
    ILW wrote: »
    So what to you base your assertion that they "pander to hate" on?
    Not being funny, just trying to establish why you feel that way.

    OK maybe that was a little strong. I do dislike their "all immigrants are here to steal our jobs and benefits and stab us" editorial standpoint, and also I find their very moralist right wing leanings distasteful. They (actually the Mos) employ Peter Hitchens to write a column, which says it all.

    It is also reflected in the rest of their output, for example in film reviews. I've seen some reviews (for example, for the film Kick-!!! which I found to be excellent) not focusing on the film itself, but rather an editorial about the decline of society dressed up as critical review.

    There's a thread of moral hand-wringing about all the alleged wrongdoings of modern society throughout, but what really got my goat in recent times was the Lord Triesman affair, where someones private conversations were deemed newsworthy, even if it might have led to the one chance (and most others) have of seeing the World Cup in our own country going up in smoke, just to sell a few newspapers. Although the increased circulation above all else is common to pretty much all papers, I think the Mail is the biggest culprit of the lot.

    Basically, I'm not a big fan, if that wasn't clear. :p
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