I have been scammed - Iphone on Gumtree

markfj

Ok

Well, I have been scammed of 290 for an Iphone I know I am never going to receive, which I had bought for someone

I had checked things out as it was on Gumtree, and I know its got no safety precations, but I chcked with the guy for his name, paypal address, email address, he even gave me an address but its clear its a scam

I paid his paypal account (he requested paypal or C.O.D) I chose paypal as I was working an 8 day week and didnt have time, to drive and pick up.. so after paying his paypal account, I then looked at the transaction details, and his phone number listen on the account I paid is a Thailand number, so I knew from that it was no good

I did some googleing on Iphone scams/Thailand and found a thread on here, so many people have been done by this, usually by Bank Transfer (which I would never do) and I thought paypal was safe, but here is how the scam apparently goes

1. He doesnt send phone/answer any emails
2. you then open dispute with Paypal saying no item received
3. He then sends out a Fake/Toy phone which you sign for upon receiving
4. Paypal see you have your item as its been sent with tracking number and close dispute

I cant open a dispte yet as its too early, but now I know what his plans are what can I do about it do you think? I have emailed him from a different email address, and strangely he answered this one and beleive it or not still has an ipohne for sale, he changes his name from "John" to "Jonathon" and his address strangely changed from number 4 to number 6, but same street... why would he even offer me to come down and pay C.O.D is what I want to know? any ideas?

Thanks, and sorry for rambling, I can afford to lose near £300 at this time though

pcombo

Just contact bank and get it back, Save what you basically said here.

markfj

pcombo wrote: »

Just contact bank and get it back, Save what you basically said here.

My bank is set up through Debit Card, apparently its nothing to do with the bank now, if it was Credit Card I'd be insured!

jizzler

try getting in touch with paypal and telling them what you have actually told us, then hopefully/maybe they can save your money & stop there account thus saving other people from getting conned in the future.

custardy

markfj wrote: »

Ok

Well, I have been scammed of 290 for an Iphone I know I am never going to receive, which I had bought for someone

I had checked things out as it was on Gumtree, and I know its got no safety precations, but I chcked with the guy for his name, paypal address, email address, he even gave me an address but its clear its a scam

I paid his paypal account (he requested paypal or C.O.D) I chose paypal as I was working an 8 day week and didnt have time, to drive and pick up.. so after paying his paypal account, I then looked at the transaction details, and his phone number listen on the account I paid is a Thailand number, so I knew from that it was no good

I did some googleing on Iphone scams/Thailand and found a thread on here, so many people have been done by this, usually by Bank Transfer (which I would never do) and I thought paypal was safe, but here is how the scam apparently goes

1. He doesnt send phone/answer any emails
2. you then open dispute with Paypal saying no item received
3. He then sends out a Fake/Toy phone which you sign for upon receiving
4. Paypal see you have your item as its been sent with tracking number and close dispute

I cant open a dispte yet as its too early, but now I know what his plans are what can I do about it do you think? I have emailed him from a different email address, and strangely he answered this one and beleive it or not still has an ipohne for sale, he changes his name from "John" to "Jonathon" and his address strangely changed from number 4 to number 6, but same street... why would he even offer me to come down and pay C.O.D is what I want to know? any ideas?

Thanks, and sorry for rambling, I can afford to lose near £300 at this time though

because it makes it seem more legitimate
no skin off his/her nose if you go there or not

cyberbob

markfj wrote: »

1. He doesnt send phone/answer any emails
2. you then open dispute with Paypal saying no item received
3. He then sends out a Fake/Toy phone which you sign for upon receiving
4. Paypal see you have your item as its been sent with tracking number and close dispute

If he sends out a tracked letter of a fake plastic phone. you point out to paypal the the weight is totally incorrect and you will be refunded once you prove this. You may have to be pushy with this but they do do it and there have been cases on the ebay community boards that buyers have been refunded once this was proved.

Also just to point out even if you paid via CC through paypal you may not have have been covered by section 75. Not all CC companies will except it as the transaction was via a third party Paypal.

Brooker_Dave

markfj wrote: »

Well, I have been scammed of 290 for an Iphone I know I am never going to receive, which I had bought for someone

3 warning signs, Gumtree, Iphone, Paypal.

Next time consider using a shop.

mynameisdave

markfj wrote: »

My bank is set up through Debit Card, apparently its nothing to do with the bank now, if it was Credit Card I'd be insured!

I've had money back from Barclays for a not received £600 laptop (to be sent from the US) off eBay that I paid for on my debit card.

I was under the impression the bank is liable if the card carry the Visa logo whether it is debit or credit.

markfj

Brooker_Dave wrote: »

3 warning signs, Gumtree, Iphone, Paypal.

Next time consider using a shop.

Now do you have anything constructive to add?

Thanks everyone else I have been told to go to police and get a number and give that to paypal and apparently then they should refund regardless true or not I don't know

soolin

markfj wrote: »

Now do you have anything constructive to add?

Thanks everyone else I have been told to go to police and get a number and give that to paypal and apparently then they should refund regardless true or not I don't know

That is untrue, paypal rules are quite rigid.

markfj

Yeah that's what thought too:(