Overpayment of jobseekers allowance, help!!

DX2

Babalon88 wrote: »

i ain't saying i won't pay, i just wanted advice, no need to give me a kick in the teeth, i'm not a idiot who sits on my !!!! and claims benefit and not wanting to work.

Thanks for help from people who have not been sarcastic tits.

:rotfl:No you just want to have your cake and eat it love.

harmony10

jobseekers allowance is for people seeking jobs, not people who are working, hence the title?! There are 'working tax credits & child tax credits' available for those in employment meeting the criteria.

Trying to cheat the system will eventually catch up with you, and pleading ignorance will not work! The reason for the negative comments are that myself and those others paying tax, are in effect paying for you cheating the system, which is clearly unfair, I, for example work and have pay a mortgage, pay my property rates, and it is therefore very frustrating that some people on benefits have more disposable income and have mortgage/rent/rates paid for them.

I would suggest you get in contact with DWP and try to negotiate re-payment terms.. but your comment that your dont claim benefits is clearly untrue!

andyandflo

Babalon88 wrote: »

I NEED PEOPLES ADVICE ON THIS !!!

I have recieved a letter through the post regarding an overpayment of jobseekers allowance.

The amount overpaid is £1019!!! (apparently)

I cannot see how this can be valid, this has acrued from dates aug 09 to dec 09. But in that time i have calculated from my bank statements that i only recieved £944 in total of jobseekers allowance.

I cannot understand how the overpaid amount there asking for is more than what i have recieved from then during that time. (this has to be wrong, surely)

I need help here, as this is from DWP and it's worrying me.

This is due to working 11.5 hours a week but not informing Job Centre i was doing so. I was under the impression that i only had to state i was working if it was over 16 hours, as i know that is when you cannot claim any longer.

Please someone help! So i can contact them with vital information.

Thanks in advance

Natasha

Hi, the last time I looked at this, you are treated as entitled to claim JSA if you are unemployed OR are working for less than 16 hours pw on average.

16 hrs + and you are classed as being in full time work.

OK then, working under 16hrs pw, you can keep the first £5 - yipeee!! then anything over that figure is deducted £1 for £1 from your benefit. So from the sound of it - your earnings after deducting £5, were equal to or greater than your benefit.

That is where you went wrong and where you thought that you could work for up to 16 hours pw (and keep the money).

Therefore they would be entitled to take from you all of the benefit that you were paid in the period that you worked less £5 pw.

You say you received less than what they are asking back from you. Yes of course, you will be paying a penalty on top of what you had!

It's a simple and easy slip up to make, especailly when they tell you that you can work up to 16 hrs pw AND claim JSA.

You would have been better off claiming IB/ESA if because of an illness you could not work for more than 11.5 hours a week, as the rules for permitted work are a lot more relaxed and you get to keep up to £93pw for working up to 16 hrs pw for 12 months at a time on top of your benefit!

Anyhow, ask the JC for a breakdown of how they get to their figures for your own piece of mind.

Good luck

Indie_Kid

andyandflo wrote: »

You would have been better off claiming IB/ESA if because of an illness you could not work for more than 11.5 hours a week, as the rules for permitted work are a lot more relaxed and you get to keep up to £93pw for working up to 16 hrs pw for 12 months at a time on top of your benefit!

The OP hasn't said anything about being sick or disabled. :huh:

andyandflo

sh1305 wrote: »

The OP hasn't said anything about being sick or disabled. :huh:

No but she hasn't said she isn't. Maybe she can't work for more than 11.5 hours because of an illness she has.

She may have claimed the wrong benefit - many do, me included in the past on so called 'good advice' from the DWP.

Now I check everything myself.

She could be unemployed and sick! In which case you should claim for the benefit that gives the best in terms of financial support, not what the DWP say you should be claiming.
Many sick people who are fit to do some work are both unemployed and sick and claim ESA and carry out permitted work of up to 16 hours per week and can keep up to £93 without it affecting their benefits!!

Driving_Soon

Babalon88 wrote: »

ignoring lady gaga's sarcasm, were all adults in here.

Robbie64 - it started off at say £95 summit then went upto £101. I think but i am still not understanding the over paid amount of £1019. when in the dates stated at first i only recieved a total of £944.

I do not know how they knew about the job, but i had to have a recorded interview and stuff which was soo scary. Then this is the outcome which has come out of no where because i had the recorded interview in March. And the gentleman said it'll be of three things, a fine, a caution or a court ruling. And i do not see that it's any of them things, which is another confusing thing. Sorry if this all seems like i'm talking gobbldy goop.

All i litreally knew is i could work less than 16 hours a week and claim jsa. I know i keep saying that.

It just seems like an outragerous amount, that is very uncalled for.

Okay Dude, I for one is not going to judge you.

I was asking how they found out because I was wondering if it seemed you were purposley frauding them or just "did not tell them". What I mean by that is if you were working Cash in hand I think it would seem more serious than if your wages were being paid into your account.

I understand what you are saying and how you were confused and noone should be calling you a liar or judging you, this is an advice forum so they should take your words as truth and try to offer advice, if they don't beleive you .... they should not post.

Killmark

andyandflo wrote: »

Anyhow, ask the JC for a breakdown of how they get to their figures for your own piece of mind.

If they were overpaid £944 through working and claiming without declaring their earnings and an administrative penalty was applied then it would have been +30%.

So repayment should be approximately £1227.20

They might want to double check their figures before they question the repayment amount of £1019.

Lady_gaga

Babalon88 wrote: »

i ain't saying i won't pay, i just wanted advice, no need to give me a kick in the teeth, i'm not a idiot who sits on my !!!! and claims benefit and not wanting to work.

Thanks for help from people who have not been sarcastic tits.

No your worse, you claim benefit AND work...

Orville

OP ignore the comments by the usual idiots on here. You have made a mistake, but must also pay the money back. As has been said ask them for a breakdown of how they arrived at this figure and go from there.

Zazen999

Orville wrote: »

OP ignore the comments by the usual idiots on here. You have made a mistake, but must also pay the money back. As has been said ask them for a breakdown of how they arrived at this figure and go from there.

Yeah, just ignore them.

LALALALA I can't hear you.....I'm not a fraudster I'm just not very bright and don't understand the question....