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Private HGV tax cheaoer than my car..!!

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  • BenL
    BenL Posts: 3,189 Forumite
    WelshTust wrote: »
    Sorry but its the same with my Motorhome, its private HGV £165 a year. Because its over 3.5ton, If I had a small VW camper it would cost more.
    Doesn't make sense.


    ... and my sub 3.5t motorhome costs £180/£190 ish. One of the quirks of the uk i guess!
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  • Quinny_2
    Quinny_2 Posts: 1,351 Forumite
    pelirocco wrote: »
    Considering the cost to buy one and the mpg :rotfl:

    To buy new, you could spend around £100k, hence the reason most companies lease.
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  • sp00nz73
    sp00nz73 Posts: 20 Forumite
    good luck with insurance and fuel bills and then not being able to park it down sideroads or carparks might be worth just keeping the car and paying the extra money for tax
  • maninthestreet
    maninthestreet Posts: 16,127 Forumite
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    Let's face it, parking it in your local supermaket's car park is going to be a pain.
    "You were only supposed to blow the bl**dy doors off!!"
  • Nilrem
    Nilrem Posts: 2,565 Forumite
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    Not really, I'm sure it'll fit into the spaces that the Ka's and Corsa's used to occupy (still occupy?).

    As has been said, HGV's are essential to pretty much every part of modern life, and they already pay huge amounts of fuel duty so road tax on them is more of less a bonus for the government.
  • mrbadexample
    mrbadexample Posts: 10,805 Forumite
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    Quinny wrote: »
    No. It used to be the case that if you removed the fifth wheel, that's the big plate at the back of the cab on the chassis that the trailer connects to, you could drive it on the old class 3 hgv licence, but that is now no longer the case. You still need a class 1 (LGV) licence.

    Since the old classes of HGV licences are no longer with us, this isn't quite correct. The old class I equates to the modern C+E entitlement.
    So could i drive this on a car licence.. and would that be conditional on it being without a trailer?

    No, a car licence is class B entitlement (up to 3500kg). As this will be plated at around the 18000kg mark, you would need class C entitlement to drive it without a trailer - the equivalent of the old class II.
    If you lend someone a tenner and never see them again, it was probably worth it.
  • mrbadexample
    mrbadexample Posts: 10,805 Forumite
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    With regards to the tax, bear in mind that an artic running at 44000kg causes wear and damage to the road surface equating to that of many thousand cars, hence the tax is much higher.

    The low rate of tax for a private HGV reflects the fact that it isn't running on a commercial basis, is likely to be used infrequently, and with less load.
    If you lend someone a tenner and never see them again, it was probably worth it.
  • kaya
    kaya Posts: 2,465 Forumite
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    my 4x4 is about £500 a year to tax, stupid governbent!, if they actually cared about the mythical global warming they would have removed all the polluting road humps instead of financially penalising drivers , but that wouldnt bring them in any more money to steal would it!
  • Paradigm
    Paradigm Posts: 3,656 Forumite
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    The fifth wheel can be fitted, removed or painted dayglo yellow... it makes no difference!

    If the vehicle weighs less than 7.5 tonnes it can be replated & all you need then is a C1 entitlement on your licence, which you will have if you passed your test before 1st Jan 1997.
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  • Hammyman
    Hammyman Posts: 9,913 Forumite
    What a strange anomaly. So if i buy one of these,can i drive it on my car licence if im not in the business of commercial road haulage?
    pic1-4663.jpg

    Only if it weighs less than 7.5t, has had the plating certificate changed to show the de-rating and you passed your test before 1/1/1997.
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