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Council houses for fixed terms only!

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  • Kittikins
    Kittikins Posts: 5,335 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 1,000 Posts
    Just a point do we aso kick out many many private tenants claiming HB for a house that has one extra bedroom?.If we do wow are we going to have a lot out on the street.

    A friend of mine who is claiming HB for a 3 bed house when there are only 2 bedrooms used, only gets HB for what she needs, i.e. 2 bedrooms - she has to pay the remaining rent herself. Sounds sensible really.
  • ILW
    ILW Posts: 18,333 Forumite
    Kittikins wrote: »
    A friend of mine who is claiming HB for a 3 bed house when there are only 2 bedrooms used, only gets HB for what she needs, i.e. 2 bedrooms - she has to pay the remaining rent herself. Sounds sensible really.
    I would have thought that if she has that much cash to spare, the the HB is too high.
  • C_Mababejive
    C_Mababejive Posts: 11,668 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 10,000 Posts Name Dropper Combo Breaker
    You visit a property which has been let and you come to the opinion this person is on benefits ? did you go through the drawers and intercept the post??. The thing is as people now divorce at a high rate how do you tell the difference between a baby breeder and a divorced mother chance are both are claiming benefits .

    It matters not.

    In my world if you claim HB,that should only be spendable on a social housing estate and not for lining the pockets of BTL landlords and their ilk.
    Feudal Britain needs land reform. 70% of the land is "owned" by 1 % of the population and at least 50% is unregistered (inherited by landed gentry). Thats why your slave box costs so much..
  • It matters not.

    In my world if you claim HB,that should only be spendable on a social housing estate and not for lining the pockets of BTL landlords and their ilk.

    There are more HB claimants than there are properties on "social housing estates". What would your solution to that be?
  • neverdespairgirl
    neverdespairgirl Posts: 16,501 Forumite
    Just a point do we aso kick out many many private tenants claiming HB for a house that has one extra bedroom?.If we do wow are we going to have a lot out on the street.

    You can't have HB for more bedrooms than you are entitled to. So if I live in a 3 bed flat with my partner and 1 child, we are entitled to a 2 bed rate. We won't get LHA for a 3 bed, even if that's where we happen to live.
    ...much enquiry having been made concerning a gentleman, who had quitted a company where Johnson was, and no information being obtained; at last Johnson observed, that 'he did not care to speak ill of any man behind his back, but he believed the gentleman was an attorney'.
  • neverdespairgirl
    neverdespairgirl Posts: 16,501 Forumite
    Within the social sector, you have both over and under occupation. When both are taken into account, the net figure for under occupation is about 200,000 (5% of total social housing stock). As I said, under-occupation will include those waiting for a suitable exchange, people with specifically adapted properties and those with social or support needs that would make a significant move undesirable. There is FAR more under-occupation within the private sector, both owner occs and empty homes.

    I don't take both into account. the problem with over occupancy is 10% of the total housing stock. Half that number are over-crowded. So sort out just half of the over-occupancy, and you have no over crowding at all in social housing.
    ...much enquiry having been made concerning a gentleman, who had quitted a company where Johnson was, and no information being obtained; at last Johnson observed, that 'he did not care to speak ill of any man behind his back, but he believed the gentleman was an attorney'.
  • I don't take both into account. the problem with over occupancy is 10% of the total housing stock. Half that number are over-crowded. So sort out just half of the over-occupancy, and you have no over crowding at all in social housing.

    Your assuming that people, and their lives, work like pieces of a jigsaw, instead of .... um .... people. You can't just shift a family to another part of the country, away from family and friends, schools, support networks etc etc etc just because it makes the figures look good.
  • neverdespairgirl
    neverdespairgirl Posts: 16,501 Forumite
    that's why I said half the over occupancy. Of course people are people, but they don't need to live in exactly the same house for 60 years.
    ...much enquiry having been made concerning a gentleman, who had quitted a company where Johnson was, and no information being obtained; at last Johnson observed, that 'he did not care to speak ill of any man behind his back, but he believed the gentleman was an attorney'.
  • Wee_Willy_Harris
    Wee_Willy_Harris Posts: 7,512 Forumite
    edited 6 August 2010 at 9:13PM
    that's why I said half the over occupancy. Of course people are people, but they don't need to live in exactly the same house for 60 years.

    Most don't. Almost 60% of tenancies last less than 10 years. And even the very few 60 year tenancies will include people who have moved within social housing (transfer/exchange).
  • WhiteHorse
    WhiteHorse Posts: 2,492 Forumite
    Ownership some cant afford to buy , the very same person who may be helping you on and off the wc when you are old , hope they say to you if you cant go yourself sit in it
    I repeat ... why should council tenants (who are subsidised by the taxpayer), enjoy greater privileges than private owners or renters?

    I am minded of a news item some years ago in which a council tenant died (after 60 years in the same house), and said in his will that 'my son is to have my council house'.
    "Never underestimate the mindless force of a government bureaucracy
    seeking to expand its power, dominion and budget"
    Jay Stanley, American Civil Liberties Union.
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