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Doc_N

M4ximillion wrote: »

Regarding the FIT paymenst. I rang ASG this afternoon because your posts were worrying me aobut everything being scrapped. I actually spoke to Sarah there and she said that Andrew Morrisey of DECC told her by email that is is all speculation and if there are any changes it wouldnt affect any existing installations. She said that he said periodic reviews were part of the FIT Scheme and that the Government was firmly committed to renewable energy - I wrote it down as she quoted from his email. That doesnt help me though because I havent got a system yet - scaffolding has just gone up on two properties down my street - lucky them!!

Andrew Morrissey is, of course, entirely right - it is at present all speculation. He's probably also right to say that existing installations won't be affected - it would be difficult even for this government to break the terms of a contract it's effectively entered into with a group of people who signed up to the scheme on the basis of a clear promise.

Depending on his position in DECC, he may know what's in tomorrow's statement, but he'd be highly unlikely to create a leak.

I'm guessing that the April 2012 date for a reduction in the FIT regime will be brought forward, and that the amounts will be reduced for new installations - but who knows?

Jon_Tiffany

grahamc2003 wrote: »

I(in fact, I wish the rate would go to zero, and any subsidy from consumers used in much more productive ways rather than subsidising either the rich(er) (who have 14k lying around) or companies exploiting the unfair situation.

I object to that comment - I earn just above minimum wage, certainly not rich and put all £7k of my savings into the panels because it was getting naff all in the bank. I worked damm hard to earn that money.

There are plenty of others on here who have bought their own panels, and I'm sure they are not all rich.

callistris

I've tried registering my interest for this on the ISIS website but it says

"Your name as you would like it to appear is not appropriate"

Anyone else had this happen as I'm entering my name that I was christened with lol

grahamc2003

Jon_Tiffany wrote: »

I object to that comment.

Then you're oversensitive, concentrating on a tiny part of a post which generally supported your position.

I bet there are plenty of people who wished they had £7k available to spend as they wish - to try to imply you aren't fortunate to be in that position these days is incredible to me. And there will be millions of people without that level of cash available who will be paying their equally hard earnt cash over to you.

The money in your fit cheque doesn't appear from nowhere - it comes from other consumers, including the very poorest in society.

Sorry if you have difficulty accepting these pretty obvious facts.

Cardew

Jon_Tiffany wrote: »

I object to that comment - I earn just above minimum wage, certainly not rich and put all £7k of my savings into the panels because it was getting naff all in the bank. I worked damm hard to earn that money.

There are plenty of others on here who have bought their own panels, and I'm sure they are not all rich.

I don't think there is any criticism of those who have invested their money on the roof(so as to speak)

However the system is totally unfair in so many ways.

The great majority in this country cannot have solar because they live in flats, don't own their property or have an unsuitable roof(not facing south, is shaded, wrong pitch etc)

Yet all of these people - no matter how poor - have to pay a levy to those with a suitable roof.

To add insult to injury we now have firms jumping through a loophole in the regulations and swelling their coffers from this levy.

Above all it is crazy to pay 41.5p/kWh for electricity when 'green' energy can be produced from large scale solar/wind schemes for a fraction of the price - or nuclear much cheaper than anything.

Doc_N

Cardew wrote: »

However the system is totally unfair in so many ways.

The great majority in this country cannot have solar because they live in flats, don't own their property or have an unsuitable roof(not facing south, is shaded, wrong pitch etc)

Yet all of these people - no matter how poor - have to pay a levy to those with a suitable roof.

The concept of 'fairness' depends on your viewpoint.

Is it 'fair' that some people live in the south west and pay much less than those in Scotland for their energy?

Is it 'fair' that people who work should pay taxes to support the less well off?

Is it 'fair' that those with good health should pay taxes to support those with bad health?

Life isn't always 'fair' to everyone - that's impossible.

Jon_Tiffany

Cardew wrote: »

However the system is totally unfair in so many ways.

Yes, I agree.

Its unfair that I have to pay for my prescriptions while others get them for free.

Why do I not get a free bus pass? Just because I'm not old enough? Its all so unfair!

Jon_Tiffany

grahamc2003 wrote: »

Then you're oversensitive, concentrating on a tiny part of a post which generally supported your position.

I bet there are plenty of people who wished they had £7k available to spend as they wish - to try to imply you aren't fortunate to be in that position these days is incredible to me. And there will be millions of people without that level of cash available who will be paying their equally hard earnt cash over to you.

The money in your fit cheque doesn't appear from nowhere - it comes from other consumers, including the very poorest in society.

Sorry if you have difficulty accepting these pretty obvious facts.

The very poorest in society are supported by money that comes from my wages in the first place!

I'm sure that many people will not have any spare cash, in fact that was me for many years. Through hard work and living within my means I've managed to put some money aside.

You make it sound like a crime to have some savings!

Jon_Tiffany

Cardew wrote: »

energy can be produced from large scale solar/wind schemes for a fraction of the price - or nuclear much cheaper than anything.

Government have given the go ahead for 8 new nuclear power stations. Its all part of the mix - but I must say I'm glad that none of those 8 nuclear plants are planned for anywehre near me.

I wonder which forgien companies will get the contracts for those and bleed the UK of a few more billions.

M4ximillion

Cardew wrote: »

I

To add insult to injury we now have firms jumping through a loophole in the regulations and swelling their coffers from this levy.

And giving people like me - who cant afford to buy it (or a holiday home in the US) - the opportunity to have solar PV. Why should it just be for the wealthy? You keep harping on about this loophole - talk about bitter, it makes me wonder if its because you didnt think of it yourself.;)

We all subsidise everybody else in the end - I pay my taxes so that some folk can lounge around and do nothing - Im not bitter!