Blue Badge 'police'

SandraScarlett

Madz wrote: »

When I first got my bb it was clearly stated in the rules that it had to be you getting out of the car.

I can't do double quotes but dave030445 posted

By law and acording to the BB rules Iam allowed to stay in the car and my wife gets outs to do something for me.

He continues

Iam doing nothing wrong so stop making out that i am.

Excellent point Dave, that is what I find so amazing on this thread. Holders of BBs are berating other holders. Why? Surely it's the non holders who should be made to feel guilty?

Imagine the scene this week or next week, in a busy car park, that has a dozen BB spaces. Dave has been to his GP, and needs to get his prescription filled. As they drive in, Mrs Dave spots a BB parking space being vacated. She drives in, leaving Dave in the car, goes to the chemist, gets his prescription, returns and drives away.

Or, she drives past, because Dave has told her there might be someone else who needs it more than he does, and someone behind her drives in, leaving Mrs Dave to drive round for half an hour, looking for a standard space. And pre Christmas, any space will be at a premium.

How do they know the person now occupying the space is worse off than Dave, or even holds a BB? And if they do, how do we know they haven't borrowed it? Occupying a BB space when you don't have a BB, or lending your BB to someone, is disgustingly abusing the system - that's where people's anger should be directed.

xx

hippygran

I too am amazed that some BB holders are directing their anger at other BB holders.
Bacause invariably, when spaces are at a premium and the bays are all full, there are generally a high percentage of vehicles parked, where a blue badge is not displayed.
This is where anger should be directed, not at other BB holders.

pwales_2

sorry dave is wrong
to read the full rules read the book
http://www.direct.gov.uk/dr_consum_dg/groups/dg_digitalassets/@dg/@en/@disabled/documents/digitalasset/dg_186198.pdf

Who can use the badge?
The badge is for your use and benefit
only. It must only be displayed if you are
travelling in the vehicle as a driver or
passenger, or if someone is collecting
you or dropping you off and needs to park
nearby for your benefit.
Do not allow other people to use the badge
to do something on your behalf, such as
shopping or collecting something for you,
unless you are travelling with them.

•

You must never give the badge to friends

or family to allow them to park for free,
even if they are visiting you.
•

You should not use the badge to allow

non-disabled people to take advantage
of the benefits while you sit in the
car. Although it is not illegal for a badge
holder, or a non-disabled person waiting
for the badge holder to return, to remain
in the vehicle while the Blue Badge is
displayed, consideration should be given

to using a car park whenever possible.

ifonlyitwaseasier

pwales wrote: »

sorry dave is wrong
to read the full rules read the book
http://www.direct.gov.uk/dr_consum_dg/groups/dg_digitalassets/@dg/@en/@disabled/documents/digitalasset/dg_186198.pdf

Who can use the badge?
The badge is for your use and benefit
only. It must only be displayed if you are
travelling in the vehicle as a driver or
passenger, or if someone is collecting
you or dropping you off and needs to park
nearby for your benefit.
Do not allow other people to use the badge
to do something on your behalf, such as
shopping or collecting something for you,
unless you are travelling with them.

•

You must never give the badge to friends

or family to allow them to park for free,

even if they are visiting you.
•

You should not use the badge to allow

non-disabled people to take advantage

of the benefits while you sit in the
car. Although it is not illegal for a badge
holder, or a non-disabled person waiting
for the badge holder to return, to remain
in the vehicle while the Blue Badge is
displayed, consideration should be given

to using a car park whenever possible.

here endeth the arguement!

Madz

SandraScarlett wrote: »

You're trying to justify yourself again hippygran! You don't have to! Like the majority of the human race I am saddened when I hear of a tragedy, for example a car driven by a drunk, crashing in to an innocent family.

I'm saddened when I hear or read about the tragedy, but I'm not devastated, because it's not my family or someone I know. I don't care how many people say that I should think of others when occupying a BB space, because their need may be greater than my husband's need.

He is the one I care about. He is the one I nurse. He is the one who suffers in front of my eyes. And he is the one I love and cherish. And his needs are the ones I worry about, first, last and always.

I don't care if some of the posters on here think I am the most selfish cow under the sun, and should drive past a BB space, just in case there is a wheelchair user who might need it more than my husband does. If I leave that space, can they guarantee that it will then be occupied by a wheelchair user? Of course they can't! There is more likelihood of it being occupied by someone who doesn't even have a BB!

You ask, Madz, why only one person has answered your question. Suppose we flip it and ask if you have ever used a BB space? You state that you "struggle" to get out a standard space, but you know wheelchair users have more of a problem and the scheme should be self-policed. So do you drive past BB spaces, just in case a wheelchair user should happen to need it? If you do, then why apply for a BB in the first place, and if you don't, why tell the rest of us to be more considerate, when our actions are the same as yours?

BTW you stated in one of your posts "Jesus, you lot are spikey". I can't work out what you mean by that exactly, other than our opinions, as I assume I am one of "you lot", differ from yours.

Sorry, I've got to remove those xx's from the end of your post - they make me feel bilious.

I applied for a blue badge because I need one. I just don't need it all the time. I have days where it's less of a struggle but I know my struggle is always less than someone trying to get a wheelchair out of a normal space. My needs are to be closer to the shop and sometimes the normal bays are nearer anyway. If the disabled bays are nearer and I'm having a bad day then I'll use one beause I need to. If you're happy using a disabled bay and staying in the car while someone able bodied goes to do the shopping for you then fair enough. It's your moral code, you have to live with yourself. However, no-one has so far been able to clarify why you NEED to be in a disabled space if you're intending on sitting in the car - all we've had is people saying they'e entitled to do so.

Madz

SandraScarlett wrote: »

Exactly! And what would happen then - they'd stop providing BB spaces, cos they weren't occupied sufficiently to warrant them being there.

That's hilarious

Madz

hippygran wrote: »

Madz
This should never happen, as it is totally wrong on many levels.
The point I was trying to make was that on occasions, my husband has HAD to stay in the car, because it was impossible for him to get out straight away, and sometimes (but not often), he really tries and gets defeated.
I would not expect to be berated should someone witness this - and believe me, onlookers would not be able to miss the fact he is attempting to get out IF THEY BOTHERED TO LOOK enough to see the whole picture!
Troulbe is, they dont always, and so yes, I have had comments and looks. The worse incident being off an able-bodied lady, who saw ME getting out if the car, and as I was walking round the back of it to go and assist him, started to vehemently verbally attack me for abusing the bay! She had completely missed the fact that he was half in and half out the car, even though he was shouting (quite loudly with accompanying groans) for me to come and assist him.
Should I not have been able to get him out on that occasion, I dont think that would have been abuse, as more often than not with 10 mins rest, he would recover suffiently to get out and join me.
What I was trying to say was that while the intention is always there when we park, occasionally it is physically impossible for him to carry out his intentions.

Hippygran - none of this has realy been about you so I'm quite confused as to why you keep saying the same thing. I don't think anyone on this thread is discussing the kind of situation you're talking about.

lucylucky

hippygran wrote: »

I too am amazed that some BB holders are directing their anger at other BB holders.
Bacause invariably, when spaces are at a premium and the bays are all full, there are generally a high percentage of vehicles parked, where a blue badge is not displayed.
This is where anger should be directed, not at other BB holders.

Obviously the above does not apply in, for example, private supermarket car parks, where a blue badge is not required to park in any bay.

SandraScarlett

Madz wrote: »

Sorry, I've got to remove those xx's from the end of your post - they make me feel bilious.[/QUOTE]

So who is being spikey now? If you can stop yourself feeling bilious by deleting 2 crosses, then you ought to get in touch with the Medical Council, pronto.

xx

SandraScarlett

Madz wrote: »

That's hilarious

I could do with a laugh! Why is it hilarious?

xx