HELP im in the pooh up to my neck

treetrunks

sounds a bit fishy to me but if this is true they should provide evidence showing how long you were active on the site and how many times it was accessed. If it was only once and for a few seconds then that will be all they can prove. If they cant provide this information then they will be sacking you on the basis that your laptop was used to access a site at some point. If they cant show when they cant prove it was you or dis prove your story.

I was recently involved in a similar case, i had to provide a very detailed report showing times, filenames and how long a user was active. (in most companies every click is recorded, you'd probably be a little scared if you knew how monitored people were).

corbyboy

How is the downloading of 15GB of movies related to the email? You said in your first post the colleague used "his own laptop" through the work's WiFi? But then you said "it was unlucky for me he used mine when on my day off." Did he use your laptop or his?

If everybody has access to all the laptops how are they going to show it was you?

If they are able to prove you were using the laptop at the time.........
It would be pretty easy for them to show how many different pages you visited on the undesirable site.
But unless they have some extra software installed on the laptops I am pretty sure you can't tell how long somebody was looking at a page for just by using the history function.

So I think if they can show you looked at 50 different pages on the site you are screwed. But if it is just that one page I don't see how they can prove any wrongdoing.

SarEl

corbyboy wrote: »

But unless they have some extra software installed on the laptops I am pretty sure you can't tell how long somebody was looking at a page for just by using the history function.
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They couldn't do it using the history function on the lap top, but it's a routine and easy piece of information to find out.

Judas

By works related e-mail do you mean actual work e-mails or distribution from your employers such as internal vacancies; policy updates etc or do you use it communicate with clients etc?

As for the rest; it appears to me most of your post is irrelevant and due to others actions a review of IT has taken place and they have flagged a breach of IT policy.

If the website is simply what you say I would be surprised if anything other than a verbal warning at worst is issued.

If you have been giving out passwords or breaching the IT policy in more detail then it may be a bit more serious.

corbyboy

SarEl wrote: »

corbyboy wrote: »

But unless they have some extra software installed on the laptops I am pretty sure you can't tell how long somebody was looking at a page for just by using the history function.

They couldn't do it using the history function on the lap top, but it's a routine and easy piece of information to find out.

Interesting. Do you mean with extra software installed or just on a standard Windows installation?

SarEl

corbyboy wrote: »

Interesting. Do you mean with extra software installed or just on a standard Windows installation?

I am "good enough" at IT - so how it is done exactly isn't my forte. But I know that employer after employer turns up at tribunals with a printed record on the times dates and websites/pages visited by their employee, which they have retrieved from their server. It obviously isn't that difficult to do, because it isn't by any means big or wealthy employers only. I wouldn't assume that any employer cannot easily obtain such information from their system.

Judas

There would be two ways to access it;

1) Get the person to log onto the PC and if they dont routinely delete the history it would be available in 30 seconds

2) IT access the data from server/back ups

It isnt hard and even once deleted they can trace exactly what has been done and when.

corbyboy

Judas wrote: »

There would be two ways to access it;

1) Get the person to log onto the PC and if they dont routinely delete the history it would be available in 30 seconds

2) IT access the data from server/back ups

It isnt hard and even once deleted they can trace exactly what has been done and when.

1 But the history doesn't tell you how long somebody was looking at a page for. Assuming the person is using Internet Explorer you can look at the time and date of the last visit, but you can't tell how long somebody was looking at a single page for.

2. Backup of what data? I doubt many IT departments back up the history file from staff computers.

getmore4less

SarEl wrote: »

I am "good enough" at IT - so how it is done exactly isn't my forte. But I know that employer after employer turns up at tribunals with a printed record on the times dates and websites/pages visited by their employee, which they have retrieved from their server. It obviously isn't that difficult to do, because it isn't by any means big or wealthy employers only. I wouldn't assume that any employer cannot easily obtain such information from their system.

The server cannot tell you how long any individual page was looked at.

It can only tell you when the individual accesses took place.

You could be unlucky and leave the page in a browser and if it had auto refresh it could look like you were accessing continously over a period ven if you were not looking at the page.

Judas

corbyboy wrote: »

1 But the history doesn't tell you how long somebody was looking at a page for. Assuming the person is using Internet Explorer you can look at the time and date of the last visit, but you can't tell how long somebody was looking at a single page for.

2. Backup of what data? I doubt many IT departments back up the history file from staff computers.

Your replies are now starting to make me think your guilty and playing a numbers game as to whether they can prove your story wrong or not.

1) You are correct but there are other factors that could help them do this.

2) I think you would be surprised on this. It can be easier to back up everything than targetted back up.