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  • marrbett
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    mrcow wrote: »
    OP - if you want to home-school your child then obviously that is your right. But.....


    ....seriously, do you feel that you are in any way properly equipped for the job?

    I can tell you that I for one wouldn't let you anywhere my own children's schooling with the shocking level of literacy that you've displayed (even allowing for typo's/quick typing that we all have on forums).

    Exactly what experience and qualifications do you have yourself? And why would you think that secondary school teachers would hold onto such baggage in years to come? If your son has actually pulled himself up and is now behaving appropriately/working hard, then I'm sure the teachers in question would be the first ones to appreciate/notice it.

    I think you are being very rude and judgemental.
    The OP obviously has her son's best interests in mind, that more than qualifies her to help her son .
  • mrcow
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    marrbett wrote: »
    I think you are being very rude and judgemental.
    The OP obviously has her son's best interests in mind, that more than qualifies her to help her son .

    Perhaps it qualifies to help her son.

    But are you seriously saying that it qualifies to TEACH her son? To GSCE level?

    Would you let her teach your children to GCSE level given the literacy levels on display here?
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  • A few children in every year group will leave with no qualifications. A significant number will under-achieve for whatever reason. A couple will perhaps be permanantly excluded. Several may end up with mental health problems and self esteem issues as a result of bullying at school. Some will disrupt the learning of others because they are so unhappy themselves. A couple will not be stretched enough. One or two may have real potential that is never recognised and nurtured. A few may have such independent or unusual little personalities that they feel school squashes them. Hopefully though, most children will do just fine in most reasonable schools.

    I imagine a similar pattern for home educated children - most will do fine, but a few will not be suited to it for various reasons.

    It's about knowing your child surely, and working on the best choice for her or him.
  • System
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    mrcow wrote: »
    OP - if you want to home-school your child then obviously that is your right. But.....


    ....seriously, do you feel that you are in any way properly equipped for the job?

    I can tell you that I for one wouldn't let you anywhere my own children's schooling with the shocking level of literacy that you've displayed (even allowing for typo's/quick typing that we all have on forums).

    Exactly what experience and qualifications do you have yourself? And why would you think that secondary school teachers would hold onto such baggage in years to come? If your son has actually pulled himself up and is now behaving appropriately/working hard, then I'm sure the teachers in question would be the first ones to appreciate/notice it.

    Not a teacher by any chance are you ? the op isnt offering to school your children as said many times previously you dont need any qualifications education isnt just about class room learning .
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  • pipkin71
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    Taking children out of school so that they are 'home educated' does not mean that it is only the parent who will provide their education.

    My children are learning Japanese. I have no knowledge of this subject and therefore cannot teach it to GCSE level. However, they have a tutor, who can teach it to the level they wish to take it to.

    Many parents will have various options open to them and if they feel they are not able to teach a particular subject, but their child has an interest in it, then they can look to alternatives.
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  • The focus on education is on learning, not teaching. If children are learning, then they will achieve. Some people learn best with a guide or mentor, with a coach or a fellow learner beside them. There are resources galore out there.

    You need to be a qualified teacher to guide the learning of 30 totally individual children. But your own family? Not necessarily; you can pick what needs facilitating to maximise the pleasure and impact of their learning yourself if that suits you best. I really don't understand why people are so against home education; it's not in competition with schooling, just a different choice.
  • mrcow
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    CHRISSYG wrote: »
    Not a teacher by any chance are you ? the op isnt offering to school your children as said many times previously you dont need any qualifications education isnt just about class room learning .


    I completely agree that education isn't just about what they learn in the classroom. In fact, most aspects of "learning" within schools aren't even about what goes on inside the classroom in terms of formal learning.

    But do you not think that a child should at least be given the opportunity to have a fair crack at getting the most basic of qualifications? For many, they will be judged by potential employers or 18+ and further education institutions on what grades they have and in what subjects.

    No matter how good your intentions, you can't teach literacy adequately(for example) if you yourself have inadequate literacy skills.

    The OP has said themselves that their son has pulled his finger out. I would encourage them to in the very least "play it by ear" and see how things progress going into next year. In the meantime, perhaps they can use the three or so interim months to develop their own skills.
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  • 7891368
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    Some subjects are compulsory in schools; Maths, English and Science mainly.

    A lot of students struggle with these, but by being homeschooled they can avoid these? I don't really think that should be done.

    I think it would be fantastic for 'flexible' learning to happen but surely some things have an element of necessity?
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  • Courgette
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    Have been reading this very interesting thread all day from work (I'm a teacher :p) and gald to see the independant spirit is doing so brilliantly and so many people are home-eding.

    I was home ed for a little while but it didn't work out for us but I couldn't agree more with the quote below:

    A few children in every year group will leave with no qualifications. A significant number will under-achieve for whatever reason. A couple will perhaps be permanantly excluded. Several may end up with mental health problems and self esteem issues as a result of bullying at school. Some will disrupt the learning of others because they are so unhappy themselves. A couple will not be stretched enough. One or two may have real potential that is never recognised and nurtured. A few may have such independent or unusual little personalities that they feel school squashes them. Hopefully though, most children will do just fine in most reasonable schools.

    I imagine a similar pattern for home educated children - most will do fine, but a few will not be suited to it for various reasons.

    It's about knowing your child surely, and working on the best choice for her or him.

    I think (and as I said, I'm a Secondary teacher) that while most kids are *fine* at school it's quite difficult for many to thrive. I think school can be a very lonely place if you're a bit different but don't have an amazing talent. I work extremely hard at my job but I don't know many of my students that well. I teach over 200 students over the course of the week and I'll be totally honest, even at this stage of the year I couldn't honestly name every single one of them. Most, yes, but not all.

    One thing though for the OP to think about: one of the real highlights of my job is watching kids turn themselves around and I will never ever ever judge a child based on previous behaviour (not to mention we get new classes every year so get new kids in September). Just today for example a yr10 boy who's been, erm, workshy for the year came to me at lunchtime and asked if he could improve a piece of coursework then spent his lunchtime working like I've never seen him work before - absolutely brilliant :T If you really feel your son's school won't allow him to move on then you must contact them to discuss it, and perhaps a managed move to another school might be a good idea
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  • odollybird
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    [/QUOTE] No, you're right. She asked for advice because those evil teachers wouldn't let a bad kid start afresh. Boo. Bloody. Hoo.

    I'm sorry but if the parent refuses to teach that there are consequences to actions, then the school must. And if the parent doesn't like that, then she can remove her son and save the better kids a lot of hassle from a badly behaved, and disgusting waste of space.

    Fran,

    you are very rude in my opinion, my son is not badly behaved now or is he" A DISGUSTING WASTE OF SPACE " and it has nothing to do with you what my qualifications are, as at the end of the day i own my own house, have a nice car, a loving spouse, have nice holidays and foremost go to the toilet in the same way that you probably do:D :rotfl:.

    It's my son's future that i have in mind and with my support and commitment i want him to do very well in life.

    I will be there for him for all the hours he needs as i am currently of work for the unforeseeable future and before you ask it's my back had one op that has not worked and need another soon, so will have plenty if time to spend with him. Me and my son have discussed this at great length and it some thing that he would like to do he tells me he would feel better doing this than going to school in the way that he would have one to one quality time.
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