Ema Problems

sunrise27_2

kingfisherblue wrote: »

There is always a cut off point when changes occur - even if you weren't aware of the change. It might be frustrating, but it isn't going to be altered for one person. If nothing else, your daughter will have learned not to leave things to the last minute.

FWIW, I think EMA will be obsolete in a short time anyway. The school leaving age is to be increased from 16 to 18 - everybody will have to be in some sort of employment or training. I can't remember exactly when this will occur, but a decision was made about three years ago. I remember that it affects my two youngest (but I would want them to stay on anyway).

Right, I've found it. The plans are to raise the school leaving age to 18 in 2013.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/education/6254833.stm

Whether this is definitely going ahead, I'm not sure, but presumably it will mean an end to EMA as a sweetener to keep young people in education as they won't have any choice. It will also help the economic recovery I would have thought.

my daughter DID NOT leave things until the last minute , she visited the new college many time and got the paper work sorted ,the college told her to take it in on the first day of the course to get it signed ,
my daughter listens to the teachers and takes their advice as they should know what they're talking about
I am fed up with you all saying she shouldn't have sat on the paperwork or left it until the last minute
she did exactly what she was told to do ( but obviously in this day and age you are supposed to do the opposite of what your teachers say , what a bad mother I am for bringing her up to respect her elders and do as shes told !!!! )

sunrise27_2

Mupette wrote: »

Awww you got there first, I was wondering too why it took her a few weeks to get these forms signed, if it was that important that she had this money then I would of thought she would of made it a priority to get them sorted, if not had time for a free £30 i would of made the time.

It may seem unfair that the rules changed on the day, perhaps we can lobby to have the date moved one day along for your daughter.

as I keep saying my daughter DID NOT sit on the forms
she got them all filled in as soon as possible and was told to get them signed on the first day of the course - again she did as she was told by the college who have far much more experience with ema than she does

AnxiousMum

sunrise27 wrote: »

again she did as she was told by the college who have far much more experience with ema than she does

But who, like many, do not have the full knowledge of cuts, changes etc. to be made.

She's still a full time student - you still get CTC and CB for her - how have her costs increased that the EMA makes this much difference to her? She's also working part time earning money which she could use for her driving lessons - as surely you (receiving benefits for her) are still able to provide her room/board, clothing, necessities etc.?

You seem to want to blame the college for your daughter not getting the EMA money.

sunrise27_2

its not the costs its the principle of it
she was told she was eligible for it , she claimed it in plenty of time , she started the course and was then told no things have changed you can't have it anymore
as I've said she sees many people round her living off benefits , wasting their money and she just wanted some money for going to college like all her friends do and actually doing something worthwhile with it
never mind obviously not many of you agree with me , I know I've bought up a good hardworking daughter who is academic and wants to do hair and nails and wants to do something with her life
she might as well realise life is unfair now and there are many people out there getting something for nothing , not doing anything with their life but getting paid to do that.
The EMA would have been a bonus an incentive for actually getting out there and doing something worthwhile that will hopefully pay off in the future
god forbid she is not actually in a hairdressing job yet after training for 2 years, what a stupid idea to go and do a nail course with the idea of trying to make some money out of being able to offer customers something extra, fancy bringing up a daughter who works part time and is going to work voluntarily in a hairdressers to gain experience. What a bloody terrible mother I am.
I have brought both my children up to respect their elders, to fight for what they believe in , to be good , law abiding citizens
at the end of the day I am proud of the young people they have become even if no one else is

Morgan_Ree

sunrise27 wrote: »

its not the costs its the principle of it
she was told she was eligible for it , she claimed it in plenty of time , she started the course and was then told no things have changed you can't have it anymore
as I've said she sees many people round her living off benefits , wasting their money and she just wanted some money for going to college like all her friends do and actually doing something worthwhile with it
never mind obviously not many of you agree with me , I know I've bought up a good hardworking daughter who is academic and wants to do hair and nails and wants to do something with her life
she might as well realise life is unfair now and there are many people out there getting something for nothing , not doing anything with their life but getting paid to do that.
The EMA would have been a bonus an incentive for actually getting out there and doing something worthwhile that will hopefully pay off in the future
god forbid she is not actually in a hairdressing job yet after training for 2 years, what a stupid idea to go and do a nail course with the idea of trying to make some money out of being able to offer customers something extra, fancy bringing up a daughter who works part time and is going to work voluntarily in a hairdressers to gain experience. What a bloody terrible mother I am.
I have brought both my children up to respect their elders, to fight for what they believe in , to be good , law abiding citizens
at the end of the day I am proud of the young people they have become even if no one else is

I can feel an Amen Sister moment coming on

welshmoneylover

sunrise27 wrote: »

she just wanted some money for going to college

Your whinging on these forums isn't going to get her EMA money.
You seem to be beating the same drum out of anger, get over it.

Unfortunately, it looks as if she's missed the boat, besides EMA is going to be abolished for everyone.

AnxiousMum

when I started my job - I was told there would be an annual wage increase based on performance.......who do I get angry with about the fact there is no pay rise this year for ANYBODY in the company, or should I be pleased I still have my job? Being a worker in the public sector, you are pretty much guaranteed decent wage increases every year - who do I complain to about the fact that OH will not be getting one now? Or, again, do we be grateful that he has his job?
Maybe your daughter just has to realise that she missed the boat on this one, or, you have to realise your daughter missed the boat on this one, but be grateful that she can still do the course, and still gain the qualifications to get into employment at the end of it.

If you have younger children, at least you are aware of the upcoming changes to CTC etc. that will have an effect on you. I do agree with you with regards to some of the kids getting EMA, and then your daughter working hard but not getting it. Weve had the same thing - two kids not entitled to it, doing very well in school, but they have worked, and I think have a much stronger work ethic and a greater aprpeciation for what they have earned than had they just been handed it on a platter. I hope your daughters' course goes well.

Faithless92

welshmoneylover wrote: »

Your whinging on these forums isn't going to get her EMA money.
You seem to be beating the same drum out of anger, get over it.

Unfortunately, it looks as if she's missed the boat, besides EMA is going to be abolished for everyone.

This is actually a good idea, since while I was just studying my A levels (I have now left to do an apprenticeship) and from what I could make out there was a certain amount of people turning up for the EMA allowance. Which if you think about it is a hindrance, this is because they're less motivated to want to learn since they're only going for the easy money to be made thus making it harder for the people in which do want to be there to gain higher grades

[FONT=&quot]Also, I seen a comment saying that the EMA cut of point is a way to keep the working-class out of the education system. This is a lie, I am from a working-class background and so was most of my friends that attended the 6th form too.[/FONT]

Kind regard,

Former_MSE_Archna

Hi all,

Please can I remind you of the site's motto: Please be nice to all MoneySavers.

The poster has asked for some help and practical suggestions - for discussions on the rights and wrongs of EMA please go to discussion time.

Thanks

krisskross

I think this thread proves once again that any sort of benefit can be removed as quickly as it is given. Doesn't do to make decisions around what benefits you can get.