Newly seperated, father says he won't give permission for sons holiday abroad.

whatamigonnado

Hi, just after a bit of advice for my daughter please. She and her ex partner have a son of just over one.

We have a family holiday booked for the end of August to Spain and are just about to send off for the babies passport. My daughter's ex partner was on the booking but obviously he won't be going now.

They have only been split for just over a month, but it looks like it is for good. He informed her last night that he will not allow her to take the baby abroad (it is only for a week). Has he got the legal right to do this? Also, will there now be any problems trying to get his passport?

They are not married, but the baby does have his surname and he is named on the birth certificate.

He is only doing this to be spiteful.

Would be grateful to hear from anybody who knows exactly whether he can put a stop to this.

Thanks. W

pigpen

He can't stop her... so he is talking out of his bottom!

He could OBJECT to her moving abroad permanently but if it was shown it would improve the life of the child it would go ahead anyway.. but he cannot stop her taking her own child anywhere!!

Just laugh at him and shut the door in his face!

Soubrette

There should be no problem getting a passport.

There might be a problem taking the baby abroad - I've been asked twice for a letter from the girls' father about holidaying in Canada (never had one but they were old enough to speak for themselves). The ex has taken them on various European holidays but not Spain and never been asked though.

How would your daughter feel about calling his bluff and leaving the baby with him for a week?

Sou

maggied_2

I believe that he could only object if the holiday were for longer than a month.

What a petty idiot. How does he plan on stopping her?


ETA: Some info on applying for a child passport. http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/TravelAndTransport/Passports/Applyingforaneworrenewedchildpassport/DG_174107

pigpen

He can't stop her... so he is talking out of his bottom!

He could OBJECT to her moving abroad permanently but if it was shown it would improve the life of the child it would go ahead anyway.. but he cannot stop her taking her own child anywhere!!

Just laugh at him and shut the door in his face!

Krystaltips

I applied for my daughter's passport without any of her father's details on the form so I wouldn't worry about that, and short of kicking up a fuss at the airport I doubt there's anything he can do to stop you going on a family holiday. Especially if you can show return tickets too... It's not like you're planning on absconding to the middle east with the baby...

bryanb

If the father chooses to write to the passport office stating that he believes the mother intends to take the child permanently out of the country, the authorities will list the child at all exit points. This could have the effect he seems to want.
If he does nothing it is unlikely that anything will happen although lone parents with a child are sometimes routinely questioned (Usually fathers)

Soubrette

bryanb wrote: »

If he does nothing it is unlikely that anything will happen although lone parents with a child are sometimes routinely questioned (Usually fathers)

Just to reiterate - I, the mother, have been questioned twice and the father has never been questioned so don't bank on that final comment.

However I was flying transatlantic and the father was driving throughout several countries in Europe or driving to France, so I assume I would be seen as a greater risk of absconding particularly as we were visiting family.

Sou

DX2

If the non-resident parent wishes to prevent the resident parent taking the child on holiday, he or she will need to apply for a court order.

whatamigonnado

Thanks for all your helpful replies. I didn't think he could do anything (but then again I don't know the law!), but was just a bit worried in case he could.

My daughter will send for his passport tomorrow and if he kicks up a fuss again nearer the time, we will just deal with it then.

Thank you all for replying.

W.

gratefulforhelp_2

I got DD1 a passport fine. I just wrote on the form that I didn't know where her NRP was, and at the time I didn't. No comeback.