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  • DX2
    DX2 Posts: 8,275 Forumite
    pwales wrote: »
    i cant beleive what im reading now just because "we" are disabled doesnt mean we are a bonded gang/family or we must agree on everything.
    the thread was about blue badges.... the missuses of them are a big problem and my veiw is that all disabilitys do not justify a blue badge just like some are on low rate care some middle some high some low mobility some high mobility .... not everybody should get everything
    people should not just agree with each others views just because they are disabled you know we are all still individuals in our own minds! and my veiw is still b/b are over used
    yes there are some good threads on this forum but it i a forum where people have different views and express them
    Oh you must on MSE ;) or else you will be an outcast forever more.
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  • pwales_2
    pwales_2 Posts: 523 Forumite
    DX2 wrote: »
    Oh you must on MSE ;) or else you will be an outcast forever more.
    you are very right it seems a very bonded group of users regardless of what is being said...but round hole square peg and all that :rotfl:
    water off a ducks back;) the thing is i know ways to help some of these people but i dont think they will talk to me in the future..... because i see running as a sign that mobility is not a issue:D regardless of what other disability issues ive encountered:)....
    had to do an edit 5 people thanked my posts ! how do i see who they are ?
  • cherub1965
    cherub1965 Posts: 8,470 Forumite
    Trialia wrote: »
    Which validates my point. It was mostly rhetorical.

    Anyway, if you're female you could probably get away with parking in a wide parent-and-child space and saying you're pregnant and not yet showing, if anyone asks. =P
    if there are no disabled bays i park in the parent and child anyway,after all the badge allows you to park anywere.its a waste of time arguing about disabled bays anyway as its common knowledge thanks to people on here that the tickets given out for parking in them are unenforcable.there is no respect for these bays and they are just treated as normal spaces a lot of the time.most of the time i just get OH to drop me at the door and he parks away from the store.i am in liverpool and yet in southport,which is also sefton council the carparks are all manned and pay and display and you never have a problem getting a disabled bay
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  • DX2
    DX2 Posts: 8,275 Forumite
    pwales wrote: »
    had to do an edit 5 people thanked my posts ! how do i see who they are ?
    Was probably me :D You now realise they will never talk to you :rotfl:
    *SIGH*
    :D
  • idvi
    idvi Posts: 276 Forumite
    pwales wrote: »
    you are very right it seems a very bonded group of users regardless of what is being said...but round hole square peg and all that :rotfl:
    water off a ducks back;) the thing is i know ways to help some of these people but i dont think they will talk to me in the future..... because i see running as a sign that mobility is not a issue:D regardless of what other disability issues ive encountered:)....
    had to do an edit 5 people thanked my posts ! how do i see who they are ?

    so do you disagree with people who have mental health problems, epilepsy, chronic fatigue etc getting low rate mobility?

    do you disagree with people with such problems getting dla at all?

    you dont have to be in a wheel-chair or crutches to have mobility issues
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  • pwales_2
    pwales_2 Posts: 523 Forumite
    idvi wrote: »
    so do you disagree with people who have mental health problems, epilepsy, chronic fatigue etc getting low rate mobility?

    do you disagree with people with such problems getting dla at all?

    you dont have to be in a wheel-chair or crutches to have mobility issues
    i think you are loosing the direction of my concern...i think blue badges are missused not who is more needy than whoever and who gets what ...looks like you are stiring trying to get me to bite so the rest of the sheep will pounce on me :rotfl:
  • SingleSue
    SingleSue Posts: 11,718 Forumite
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    pwales wrote: »
    a few points to make..
    i joined this forum only to put my veiws on the missuse of blue badges which is what i am doing....
    these spaces are wider than normal and are a MUST if you are in a chair...
    they are often used by people who really could just as easily park 10 mtrs down and park in the normal space...
    call me rude call me all the names you like..but when i cant get out of my car and into my chair because there is a person parked in the space (who colud just as easily be in a normal space) who is being rude than? who is the inconsiderate one then?
    i am no more bitter since my fall than before... im not saying that people are not effected by there disability whatever it is but what i am saying that certain disabilitys that do not directly effect the ability to walk should be using wide spaces...
    and all the name calling will not change my mind!


    My father is not a wheel chair user but requires the door to be opened as wide as it can possibly go plus space for my mum to assist him to get out of and back into the car, so a normal sized space is no good.

    He does use a stick (we say he should use two sticks since his strokes but he is a proud man) but at no time, has he used a wheelchair...once up on his feet, he doesn't look too bad, although a lot worse than he was before the strokes.

    By your definition, my father should be parking in a normal bay as he is not in a wheelchair....but in reality, he needs to have the wide bay for almost the same reason as you, to be able to have the door as wide as it goes to get into and out of the car.
    We made it! All three boys have graduated, it's been hard work but it shows there is a possibility of a chance of normal (ish) life after a diagnosis (or two) of ASD. It's not been the easiest route but I am so glad I ignored everything and everyone and did my own therapies with them.
    Eldests' EDS diagnosis 4.5.10, mine 13.1.11 eekk - now having fun and games as a wheelchair user.
  • Indie_Kid
    Indie_Kid Posts: 23,097 Forumite
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    SingleSue wrote: »
    My father is not a wheel chair user but requires the door to be opened as wide as it can possibly go plus space for my mum to assist him to get out of and back into the car, so a normal sized space is no good.

    He does use a stick (we say he should use two sticks since his strokes but he is a proud man) but at no time, has he used a wheelchair...once up on his feet, he doesn't look too bad, although a lot worse than he was before the strokes.

    By your definition, my father should be parking in a normal bay as he is not in a wheelchair....but in reality, he needs to have the wide bay for almost the same reason as you, to be able to have the door as wide as it goes to get into and out of the car.

    I know various people who use crutches / sticks and have said the same - they need the door open wide enough to get out.
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  • pwales_2
    pwales_2 Posts: 523 Forumite
    SingleSue wrote: »
    My father is not a wheel chair user but requires the door to be opened as wide as it can possibly go plus space for my mum to assist him to get out of and back into the car, so a normal sized space is no good.

    He does use a stick (we say he should use two sticks since his strokes but he is a proud man) but at no time, has he used a wheelchair...once up on his feet, he doesn't look too bad, although a lot worse than he was before the strokes.

    By your definition, my father should be parking in a normal bay as he is not in a wheelchair....but in reality, he needs to have the wide bay for almost the same reason as you, to be able to have the door as wide as it goes to get into and out of the car.

    my concern is people who run from there car to get out of the rain and people who manage to walk around town for hrs but still take up disabled spaces. i dont think he sounds like one of them
  • SingleSue
    SingleSue Posts: 11,718 Forumite
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    He was around town for a couple of hours yesterday........but what you may not see of those people who are going around town for a few hours, is the amount of time they spend sitting down resting between shops.

    So yes, he was in town for hours but no, he was not standing and walking the whole time...but anyone seeing them leaving the car and then coming back a couple of hours later would not know about the very frequent stopping and sitting down and would assume my dad is perfectly ok.
    We made it! All three boys have graduated, it's been hard work but it shows there is a possibility of a chance of normal (ish) life after a diagnosis (or two) of ASD. It's not been the easiest route but I am so glad I ignored everything and everyone and did my own therapies with them.
    Eldests' EDS diagnosis 4.5.10, mine 13.1.11 eekk - now having fun and games as a wheelchair user.
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