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Tories are certainly getting stuck into our benefits system...
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Suck it up sweet cheeks.
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Sorry to go off on a tangent but what an absolutely gorgeous baby you have in your pic Graham Devon.
Ok to resume arguing discussing now.....We made it! All three boys have graduated, it's been hard work but it shows there is a possibility of a chance of normal (ish) life after a diagnosis (or two) of ASD. It's not been the easiest route but I am so glad I ignored everything and everyone and did my own therapies with them.
Eldests' EDS diagnosis 4.5.10, mine 13.1.11 eekk - now having fun and games as a wheelchair user.0 -
you cant put ppl in jobs they wont like, they will simply quit, plus waste employers time/money.
No doubt the tories will play on this act by saying 'look at us were cuttign down unemployed.
What they are really doing is screwing the unemployed by offering crap jobs.
Millions of people do jobs that they don't like. IT PAYS THE BILLS.
i am beginning to think you may be one of the royal family, or just very young and spoilt.0 -
you cant put ppl in jobs they wont like, they will simply quit, plus waste employers time/money.
No doubt the tories will play on this act by saying 'look at us were cuttign down unemployed.
What they are really doing is screwing the unemployed by offering crap/wrong jobs to the wrong people.
Bring it on indeed because it will not 'wash' as they say.
I've done jobs I didn't like...earning the money was more attractive to me than struggling to pay a bill.
I just looked around whilst working there for something better.We made it! All three boys have graduated, it's been hard work but it shows there is a possibility of a chance of normal (ish) life after a diagnosis (or two) of ASD. It's not been the easiest route but I am so glad I ignored everything and everyone and did my own therapies with them.
Eldests' EDS diagnosis 4.5.10, mine 13.1.11 eekk - now having fun and games as a wheelchair user.0 -
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Millions of people do jobs that they don't like. IT PAYS THE BILLS.
i am beginning to think you may be one of the royal family, or just very young and spoilt.
lol I knew you would jump on that one. Baited as they say.
What I really meant was that you cant give the unemployed jobs that are not suitable for them.
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Millions of people do jobs that they don't like. IT PAYS THE BILLS.
i am beginning to think you may be one of the royal family, or just very young and spoilt.
I'm certainly not a scrounger if that is what you are implying. I have worked my a$$ off thus far.
Voluntary work abroad (cheap labour work not soaking up sun in Grenada), uni, taking a job that barely pays enough for travel just to get experience.
You are part right im very young, but not spoilt like some ppl here, not meaning you ILW.
Never taken a penny off parents.
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Great So you travelled australia and picked some fruit to pay for the beer. Hardly counts dude.
Get yourself to the Stan mate, where the REAL men are who dont whine on about not liking the job.0 -
lol I knew you would jump on that one. Baited as they say.
What I really meant was that you cant give the unemployed jobs that are not suitable for them.
Use your imagination.
Depends on your definition of not suitable, if you are physically incabable of doing a certain job, there is no way you should be forced to take it. If you think it is just below you and refuse to take it, the dole should be stopped. Cannot see where imagination comes into it.0 -
if you are physically incabable of doing a certain job, there is no way you should be forced to take it. If you think it is just below you and refuse to take it, the dole should be stopped.
You can't just focus on the fact that someone is 'physically' able to take a job though ? There are a few other factors to take into account surely ?
Let's just say I have two kids.. am physically 'able' to take the job. Yet constrained by having to find affordable childcare from 2 till 10 pm daily.
Still possible is it ? I'll be papped on JSA once the kids are 5 and my LHA reduced by 10% after 12 months anyway. But with no affordable accessible childcare to cover the (part-time ?) shifts, or the holidays. Tax credits will be reduced as well. Easy eh ! Oh well, I'm sure 'cold-calling' pays sooo well it'll cover it all and I'll find a cheapo chilminder... one who'll look after my kids for that 'twilight' cleaning job once the shop closes at 5.30pm till 10pm that pays £6 an hour. When she charges £5 an hour per child ( and I've got two ). Right ? Really worth my while.
It's just not possible IMHO.
mbga9pgf you ranted gaily on for two paragraphs about it being 'tough' that I had 5 kids, myself and my husband to support. Despite fact we don't claim any benefits. You assume far too much.
If you're willing to ignore the facts and figures right in front of your face, twist things to suit your own 'agenda' and have a good old rant about it, just for ONE person.. one wonders if your judgement on 10'000's of others has any real relevance ?
But I'll accept your apology if you're willing to tender it. ( *holds breath* ).
I assume the fact that you and your wife have put off having kids is because you can't afford to have them while living off just the one wage ? Or the childcare costs involved ? Most single parents have to face those hurdles. Not because most of them ARE single parents by choice. Simply because relationships break up. All the time.
Once this sort of thing is thrust upon you ( however unwillingly, and for all the good intentions at the start of a relationship ).. well the kids are already there by then. So 'being sensible' about having them isn't an option. Yet the realities of one wage, childcare issues and trying to find work round them still exists whatever the circumstances. That's what you're really saying. Kids on one wage aren't an affordable option.
The same 'unaffordable' financial scenario you paint by 'waiting cos you can't afford them' goes for everyone. But most singlies have no choice by then, when a relationship/marriage breaks up. The kids still need looking after, housed and fed. And it's a tough old world out there job-wise.
Also what do you think would happen if one of you lost your job ? Or one of you got ill ( touches wood ) and the other had to give up work to look after the other permanently ?REAL men are who dont whine on about not liking the job.
There would be no whining about it would there ? You wouldn't be able to work full stop. But you'd now be 'scum' according to you. How would you be able to 'dig potatoes' if ( again, touches wood it never happens to you ) but your wife needed 24/7 care ? Or you did ?
Leaving this thread. It's so depressing all the people who have absolutely no idea what they are talking about, because they've never been there, and never think they ever might be. They'll only be happy when we bring back workhouses for the poor, yet are quite happy ( and make little fuss ) about those in the House of Lords coining in £150 a day just for turning up and £300 a day if the stay there for a wee sleep for a few hours... doesn't make sense to me.It all seems so stupid it makes me want to give up.
But why should I give up, when it all seems so stupid ?0
I can get some things right 
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