D.L.A LIFE AWARDS help needed

50Twuncle

sh1305 wrote: »

Employment spport allowance. It replaced incapacity benefit and income support for reasons of incapacity. (for those who didn't pay enough national insurance)

That is incorrect - ESA is replacing I.B full stop
I have paid almost 30 years of NI contributions and I am, on ESA

Thetimeisnow

Every person in receipt of DLA and of 'working' age will be examined and reassessed over a time frame of about 4 years. Before that, the criteria for DLA is going to be changed (which will have to be new law) to a points based system that is similar to ESA, starting from 2013. All new adult claims from 2013 will be under the new criteria. Over the following 3-4 years, all existing claimants of working age (ie under 65) will be transferred over after being medically examined. The examinations will assess claimants against the new criteria, not the current criteria.

No-one outside of inner government knows yet what the criteria will be nor who will be exempt from examination. I don't know if Disability Groups have been consulted.
It would seem unlikely that there will not be some exemptions, such as paraplegics, but I don't know.
The Government has not announced what will happen to children on DLA when they reach age 16. My guess is that they will have to be assessed under the 'working age' criteria once they reach age 16, but again I do not know.
The Government has also not announced what will happen to working age recipients of the benefit under the new criteria once they reach 65+.

The Treasury document in the following link (mentioned in many welfare/benefits help websites), page 36 'reforming Disability Living Allowance' gives some information on the proposed change, but it is clear that it is not just the examination process that will reduce claims, but the fact that the criteria is changing. The document gives details of how much they expect the payout on DLa to reduce. **

With regard to life time/indefinite awards - the law was changed from 'life' to 'indefinite' awards and the law was also changed to allow the Government to reassess DLA whenever they want to ie to check a person still qualifies.

**nb Couldn't post a link as I am a new poster, which is a tad irritating, the info is from hm treasury document /d/junebudget_costings.pdf

I have cut and pasted the relevant extract below.

[FONT=Humnst777CnBT,Bold][FONT=Humnst777CnBT,Bold]Reforming Disability Living Allowance[/FONT][/FONT][FONT=Humnst777CnBT,Bold]
[/FONT][FONT=Humnst777CnBT,Bold][FONT=Humnst777CnBT,Bold]Measure description[/FONT][/FONT][FONT=Humnst777CnBT,Bold]
[/FONT]This measure will introduce an objective medical assessment and revised eligibility criteria for
both new and existing working-age claims for Disability Living Allowance, to be rolled out from
2013/14. The assessment will follow a similar process to the Work Capability Assessment (WCA)
used for claims to Employment and Support Allowance, with a points based system to assess
eligibility to the different rates of the benefit.
[FONT=Humnst777CnBT,Bold][FONT=Humnst777CnBT,Bold]The cost base[/FONT][/FONT][FONT=Humnst777CnBT,Bold]
[/FONT]This costing uses the same caseload and expenditure projections used in the main social
security forecast.
[FONT=Humnst777CnBT,Bold][FONT=Humnst777CnBT,Bold]Costing[/FONT][/FONT][FONT=Humnst777CnBT,Bold]
[/FONT]Drawing on the evidence of the impact of the WCA, the central assumption for this policy is that
it will result in a 20 per cent reduction in caseload and expenditure once fully rolled out. It is
assumed that existing claimants would be reassessed over three years, with 25 per cent of the
caseload reassessed in the first year, 75 per cent by the end of the second year and 100 per cent
by the end of the third year.
[FONT=Humnst777BT,Bold][FONT=Humnst777BT,Bold]Table 1 – Direct Exchequer impact (£m)[/FONT][/FONT][FONT=Humnst777BT,Bold]
[/FONT]2010-11 2011-12 2012-13 2013-14 2014-15
0 0 0 +360 +1,075

rigoletto

Thanks. This is very useful info. Keeping informed of the situation is can take away part of the anxiety. Claims & assessments are really awful for everyone because there is so much depending on it. It is horrific that the government think it it acceptable to treat those most in need of support like this. We have to speak out & make sure the rest of society are aware of what is happening!!! Blair tried to do something similar when he first got into power but there were protests outside Parliament. The sight of disabled people protesting about unfair treatment was a very powerful image & it changed the publics view & the governments proposals!!
Lets all keep talking & raise awareness...
Don't suffer alone...

ljh20_2

Anyone who has a" genuine "disability will be entitled to DLA , so there will be no need to worry about claiming if you are "genuinely" disabled.The government is trying to feret out the claimants who are trying to "rob" the taxpayer.This is GOOD.
Whether the system works is another matter!!..There are certainly flaws ie. Over 65 even if you have a severe disability (that started after your 65th birthday),you are not entitled to either DLA or even the Mobility element.In fact you are entitled to the sum total of ZERO.If the disability occurred before your 65th birthday,the benefits continue indefinitely.
I call this AGEISM ??.
Again I reiterate..If the disability is genuine, don'y worry.

Indie_Kid

ljh20 wrote: »

Anyone who has a" genuine "disability will be entitled to DLA , so there will be no need to worry about claiming if you are "genuinely" disabled.

They don't care about the disability.

SingleSue

ljh20 wrote: »

Anyone who has a" genuine "disability will be entitled to DLA , so there will be no need to worry about claiming if you are "genuinely" disabled.The government is trying to feret out the claimants who are trying to "rob" the taxpayer.This is GOOD.
Whether the system works is another matter!!..There are certainly flaws ie. Over 65 even if you have a severe disability (that started after your 65th birthday),you are not entitled to either DLA or even the Mobility element.In fact you are entitled to the sum total of ZERO.If the disability occurred before your 65th birthday,the benefits continue indefinitely.
I call this AGEISM ??.
Again I reiterate..If the disability is genuine, don'y worry.

Post 65, you can claim AA.....it doesn't cover mobility but you don't always need DLA to get a blue badge.

Indie_Kid

ljh20 wrote: »

There are certainly flaws ie. Over 65 even if you have a severe disability (that started after your 65th birthday),you are not entitled to either DLA or even the Mobility element.In fact you are entitled to the sum total of ZERO.If the disability occurred before your 65th birthday,the benefits continue indefinitely.
I call this AGEISM ??.
Again I reiterate..If the disability is genuine, don'y worry.

But many mobility problems for those over 65 are the ageing process.

cyclonebri1

ljh20 wrote: »

Anyone who has a" genuine "disability will be entitled to DLA , so there will be no need to worry about claiming if you are "genuinely" disabled.The government is trying to feret out the claimants who are trying to "rob" the taxpayer.This is GOOD.
Whether the system works is another matter!!..There are certainly flaws ie. Over 65 even if you have a severe disability (that started after your 65th birthday),you are not entitled to either DLA or even the Mobility element.In fact you are entitled to the sum total of ZERO.If the disability occurred before your 65th birthday,the benefits continue indefinitely.
I call this AGEISM ??.
Again I reiterate..If the disability is genuine, don'y worry.

Such a naive post I have never seen berfore, if only you were correct.


Sentiment?, great we all agree, back in the real world we have to battle the likes of atos etc.

Please don't get seriously ill:mad:

And if anyone else sys "don't worry", the yorkshire ripper will get out before me.

50Twuncle

ljh20 wrote: »

Anyone who has a" genuine "disability will be entitled to DLA , so there will be no need to worry about claiming if you are "genuinely" disabled.The government is trying to feret out the claimants who are trying to "rob" the taxpayer.This is GOOD.
Whether the system works is another matter!!..There are certainly flaws ie. Over 65 even if you have a severe disability (that started after your 65th birthday),you are not entitled to either DLA or even the Mobility element.In fact you are entitled to the sum total of ZERO.If the disability occurred before your 65th birthday,the benefits continue indefinitely.
I call this AGEISM ??.
Again I reiterate..If the disability is genuine, don'y worry.

You honestly believe that - do you ?
I don't know what to say ......

southantrim3

sh1305 wrote: »

They don't care about the disability.

You're right - they don't care about the disability. It in it's self has nothing to do with DLA. It's the side effects with respect to daily mobility and care needs that determine whether or not you can get the benefit (medication doesn't come into it either, just the effects on daily living.)