MSE News: The hidden Budget benefits cut at £25,000

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  • runmichellerun
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    Here we go with the backlash on the budget. I personally think it was very well thought out, and they're doing what they have to in order to sort out the mess we're in.

    It really is quite simple. If you can't afford a child then don't have one. Stop relying on the government to give you money all the time and then, maybe, the rest of the country can get back on its feet.

    It's not like we need any more in the way of population in this world anyway.
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  • emweaver
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    Here we go with the backlash on the budget. I personally think it was very well thought out, and they're doing what they have to in order to sort out the mess we're in.

    It really is quite simple. If you can't afford a child then don't have one. Stop relying on the government to give you money all the time and then, maybe, the rest of the country can get back on its feet.

    It's not like we need any more in the way of population in this world anyway.


    I suspect people could afford children at the time due to the income they were receiving also if you both work full time prior to having children what is wrong with wanting to stay at home to help raise the child? You pay enough tax whilst youve been working so why not get some rewards
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  • Deepmistrust
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    Here we go with the backlash on the budget. I personally think it was very well thought out, and they're doing what they have to in order to sort out the mess we're in.

    It really is quite simple. If you can't afford a child then don't have one. Stop relying on the government to give you money all the time and then, maybe, the rest of the country can get back on its feet.

    It's not like we need any more in the way of population in this world anyway.

    Why do you think that those that didn't create this mess, should be the ones to suffer the most in sorting it out?

    And why do you think that procreation of a species should be dependant on salary, and why do you think only wealthy people should be able to have children?
    All over the place, from the popular culture to the propaganda system, there is constant pressure to make people feel that they are helpless, that the only role they can have is to ratify decisions and to consume.
  • KimYeovil
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    Lazy breeder couples who manage sixteen hours of work between them are still being completely supported by this obscene coalition. But still their lobbyists whinge? Un
    believable.
  • KimYeovil
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    Why do you think that those that didn't create this mess, should be the ones to suffer the most in sorting it out?

    Ha ha ha. Hee hee. ?!? Ha. <cough> ha ha ha. ho ho . rotfl. <snort>

    <scratches head, genuinely puzzled>
  • Percy1983
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    Watch out, you know only nazi's think people should pay for there own children.

    I warn you all now that you will not win against Deepmistrust because he is right about everything and everybody else is wrong.

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  • pault123
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    to be fair people on £50k and relying on tax credits has needed banning for a long time. Even £40k a year is ample to bring up a kid and cover a pretty good standard of living!
  • 50Twuncle
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    edited 23 June 2010 at 2:34PM
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    So - all these poor families who CHOSE to have children will have to survive on a EIGHTY FIVE pounds per year less than they would have done up to now ?
    Is this NEWS ?
    Maybe I am being synical - but why should someone earning £25,000 get a penny in so called Tax Credits - let alone someone on £40,000 ?
    They chose to have children and should look after them - and I feel that childless couples should get tax credits for NOT costing the government so much (no schooling etc)
    What do you think of that proposal ?
  • Deepmistrust
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    Percy1983 wrote: »
    Watch out, you know only nazi's think people should pay for there own children.

    I warn you all now that you will not win against Deepmistrust because he is right about everything and everybody else is wrong.

    Have fun.


    Tut tut, you still haven't figured out why your idea to sterilise low-income people validates a comparison between yourself and the Nazis?

    Come on, surely you did history at school.
    All over the place, from the popular culture to the propaganda system, there is constant pressure to make people feel that they are helpless, that the only role they can have is to ratify decisions and to consume.
  • Deepmistrust
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    21Twinkle wrote: »
    So - all these poor families who CHOSE to have children will have to survive on a few hundred pounds per year less than they would have done up to now ?
    Maybe I am being synical - but why should someone earning £25,000 get a penny in so called Tax Credits - let alone someone on £40,000 ?
    They chose to have children and should look after them - and I feel that childless couples should get tax credits for NOT costing the government so much (no schooling etc)
    What do you think of that proposal ?

    But childless couples are contributing nothing to the future of this country. They provide no next generation to pay for your pension, or or work in the professions that you need. So should we pay them to have lavish pointless lifestyles, whilst children of low-income familes could maybe polish their shoes or clean their chimneys or something?
    All over the place, from the popular culture to the propaganda system, there is constant pressure to make people feel that they are helpless, that the only role they can have is to ratify decisions and to consume.
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