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18 yr old mother

Juicyloo
Juicyloo Posts: 268 Forumite
edited 21 June 2010 at 7:41PM in Benefits & tax credits
I feel really bad posting this but I need to know please.

My son is 23 and has worked since leaving school at 16. Has never claimed anything despite being 'let go' on a whim by a few employers when he was fitting loft insulation in summer for instance. Anyway, he fought back and is a level 2 qualified plumber with 5 years experience. He now earns about £7 per hour 40 hours a week. More if he works nights fitting hotels etc.

He has lived with a girl (18 last October) who has a 2 year old child.

She has been at college last year doing GCSE's and will do that again next year. She is now complaining on facebook that she is bored whilst my son is travelling. working nights doing everything to keep the house running. She also has very expensive tastes.

My son was brought up with better values, and this really bothers me. She periodically 'loses it' with him when she is not getting her own way and sends me abusive text messages to sort him out. Her elder sister has told me she was expelled from school for these hissy fits, whereas I was led to believe she left because she got pregnant at 15.

What kind of benefits may she be claiming? Everytime she sends me abusive texts, apart from recently when I leave it, I tell her to get a job. The father is not paying for his child, who is lovely and calls my son "Daddy". They are renting privately.

The mother has 5 children- second marriage and the younger sister is also now pregnant, and just finished her GCSE's. She is a year younger than my daughter and the father is my son's best friend. Actually a lovely couple, as are my son and his G/f.

Would really like some advice on son and g/f's position, as we have money coming along in the future and would like to get him on the property ladder, but not in these circumstances.
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  • NASA_2
    NASA_2 Posts: 5,571 Forumite
    Tax Credits and Child Benefit.

    Shouldnt be any Income Related benefits in payment.
  • Jowo_2
    Jowo_2 Posts: 8,308 Forumite
    It's an interesting thread but not quite sure of your specific questions because there's so much irrelevant info in it.

    We could perhaps guess at what your son's GF is claiming but we wouldn't really know and you'd never be able to verify this. Why do you want to know as it's really between her, the DWP and perhaps your son?

    Also, what kind of assistance would you be wanting to give your son to get onto the property ladder - there are many ways so how were you hoping to do this - by loaning him a deposit, buying him a property outright and so on? I take it you want a way of doing this without her having access to it if they split?
  • Indie_Kid
    Indie_Kid Posts: 23,097 Forumite
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    NASA wrote: »
    Tax Credits and Child Benefit.

    Shouldnt be any Income Related benefits in payment.

    Tax credits are income related.
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  • elvis1
    elvis1 Posts: 56 Forumite
    I think he needs to leave as I dont think she is worth it. It will probably start bringing him down to her level, she was obviously spoilt and got her own way when she threw her trantrums. I am surprised she is bored, you'd think she would be relaxing ready to start college again. Have you shown your son the text messages, as she needs to grow up. Trouble is if you start getting involved you end up looking like the bad person.

    I would keep quiet about the money coming in even to your son as he might tell her. Try and keep hold of it until you think he is ready.
  • Juicyloo
    Juicyloo Posts: 268 Forumite
    Just trying to paint the picture and pondering what it is bothering me - sorry if too much info.

    I thought tax credits were for over 25's- my son is not father
  • NASA_2
    NASA_2 Posts: 5,571 Forumite
    sh1305 wrote: »
    Tax credits are income related.
    Not in the sense I am talking about.

    Good old fashioned Social Security Benefits.
  • Valli
    Valli Posts: 25,593 Forumite
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    the advice I would give is to to discourage your son from having his OWN child with this girl...because then she really WILL have a hold over him.
    Don't put it DOWN; put it AWAY
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  • Jowo_2
    Jowo_2 Posts: 8,308 Forumite
    Single parents get child tax credits and there's no requirement for them to work until their youngest reaches 7. Go the HMRC website to understand the various complex varieties of tax credits and their criteria.

    For the best way to assist your son to get onto the property ladder without being exposed to the risk of being taken to the cleaners if he splits with this charming lady, post a query on the housing board and perhaps somewhere there can advise you of the best strategy and his future potential losses if she bears him a child or marries him.
  • DX2
    DX2 Posts: 8,275 Forumite
    Child tax credits and child benefit, they might get help with their rent.
    *SIGH*
    :D
  • DX2
    DX2 Posts: 8,275 Forumite
    Jowo wrote: »
    Single parents get child tax credits and there's no requirement for them to work until their youngest reaches 7. Go the HMRC website to understand the various complex varieties of tax credits and their criteria.
    But she isn't a single parent ;) she lives with the OP's son.
    *SIGH*
    :D
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