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Cuts - And So It Begins

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  • Spirit_2
    Spirit_2 Posts: 5,546 Forumite
    1,000 Posts Combo Breaker
    I am pleased with all this. I am sure that the organisations that diligently compiled succesful bids or business cases are disappointed by the loss of their projects but over all the urgent scaling back of public spending is for the greater good.


    However the cancelled project that has delighted me this week is the stopping of the introduction of the Vetting and Barring scheme through the Independent Safegaurding Authority. This was a massive over reaction to a tragic event hugely increasing surveillance in society and very costly.

    Money saving and libertarian.........cool.
  • Generali wrote: »
    I'm not sure what is more idiotic. This comment or that 5 people thanked it. You really don't have a clue do you.

    You might be missing some of the reportage down in Australia. A synopsis:

    1. Osberk claims the economy is a bigger mess than the official figures say. Government and Treasury have been lying to us, can't believe a thing they say, need an independent body to give us the truth.
    2. OBR reports and tells us that the fiddle in the treasury figures was that they were far too pessemistic about the rate of growth and the rate the deficit is falling at. Budd describes his guess at growth as being as good as the last one.
    3. Osberk and Ramsey MacClegg respond with a pre-written script saying there, told you so, a big mess hidden from you by the lying treasury. Therefore we need even bigger cuts or we all die. The script is using the OBR report as an excuse for cuts despite the OBR saying the economy is in a BETTER shape than expected.

    So you tell me. To many commentators it looks like Osborne was banking on the economy flatlining right now. he needed to prove that Labour's investment strategy had been wrong and give cover for the cuts he was going to do anyway. Thats been the plan all along, but he's got a problem now as he can't blame mass redundancy, or a VAT hike on a shrinking economy thats actually growing.

    For boy George I get that - he's an idiot. but Ramsey - like his illustrious Labour predecessor of the 30s - will give comfort to a Tory slash plan which as he himself said before the election will damage the economy and stymie growth. "What would my constituents say", MacClegg asked in March, "if we had a Tory government pushing through ideological cuts that would damage jobs and growth". Hmmmm, how quickly the politically two faced can change their minds.
  • mbga9pgf
    mbga9pgf Posts: 3,224 Forumite
    Many people do not understand that manufacturing is MORE IMPORTANT than any number of desk jobs.

    I doubt any of those agreeing with the ConDems have made anything in their sorry little lives.

    GG
    If you think competing with china is the way forward then sorry, you need to think again. High tech manufacture, yes,but the days of us being world leaders in making steel I beams and stainless steeel kitchen utensils are long gone.

    We need to work on high tech stuff like stainless steel in nuclear plants, aircraft engines, wind farm technology and the like and get over our past. The government isnt there to generate jobs that are not sustainable for the long term and cant compete with global trade.
  • mbga9pgf
    mbga9pgf Posts: 3,224 Forumite
    You might be missing some of the reportage down in Australia. A synopsis:

    1. Osberk claims the economy is a bigger mess than the official figures say. Government and Treasury have been lying to us, can't believe a thing they say, need an independent body to give us the truth.
    2. OBR reports and tells us that the fiddle in the treasury figures was that they were far too pessemistic about the rate of growth and the rate the deficit is falling at. Budd describes his guess at growth as being as good as the last one.
    3. Osberk and Ramsey MacClegg respond with a pre-written script saying there, told you so, a big mess hidden from you by the lying treasury. Therefore we need even bigger cuts or we all die. The script is using the OBR report as an excuse for cuts despite the OBR saying the economy is in a BETTER shape than expected.

    So you tell me. To many commentators it looks like Osborne was banking on the economy flatlining right now. he needed to prove that Labour's investment strategy had been wrong and give cover for the cuts he was going to do anyway. Thats been the plan all along, but he's got a problem now as he can't blame mass redundancy, or a VAT hike on a shrinking economy thats actually growing.

    For boy George I get that - he's an idiot. but Ramsey - like his illustrious Labour predecessor of the 30s - will give comfort to a Tory slash plan which as he himself said before the election will damage the economy and stymie growth. "What would my constituents say", MacClegg asked in March, "if we had a Tory government pushing through ideological cuts that would damage jobs and growth". Hmmmm, how quickly the politically two faced can change their minds.

    Ooh, Rochdale is getting all conspiracist now his economy wrecking c*ntheads are now out of parliament for a generation.

    Get pioneering in Rochdale, the day of lame duck investment from government is OVER!
    :rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:
  • kennyboy66_2
    kennyboy66_2 Posts: 2,598 Forumite
    Sorry folks, its Ramsey MacClegg, not Ramsay, spelt it wrong. And like his Labour predecessor from the 30s, Clegg is going to rip his party apart by supporting stuff they can't stomach. Marvellous!

    Tories: want to cut costs regardless.
    Lib-Dems: don't want nuclear power.

    No one should be that surprised.

    I do agree about destroying his party - how are Lib Dems going to be able to canvass come the next elections ?
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  • ILW
    ILW Posts: 18,333 Forumite
    You might be missing some of the reportage down in Australia. A synopsis:

    1. Osberk claims the economy is a bigger mess than the official figures say. Government and Treasury have been lying to us, can't believe a thing they say, need an independent body to give us the truth.
    2. OBR reports and tells us that the fiddle in the treasury figures was that they were far too pessemistic about the rate of growth and the rate the deficit is falling at. Budd describes his guess at growth as being as good as the last one.
    3. Osberk and Ramsey MacClegg respond with a pre-written script saying there, told you so, a big mess hidden from you by the lying treasury. Therefore we need even bigger cuts or we all die. The script is using the OBR report as an excuse for cuts despite the OBR saying the economy is in a BETTER shape than expected.

    So you tell me. To many commentators it looks like Osborne was banking on the economy flatlining right now. he needed to prove that Labour's investment strategy had been wrong and give cover for the cuts he was going to do anyway. Thats been the plan all along, but he's got a problem now as he can't blame mass redundancy, or a VAT hike on a shrinking economy thats actually growing.

    For boy George I get that - he's an idiot. but Ramsey - like his illustrious Labour predecessor of the 30s - will give comfort to a Tory slash plan which as he himself said before the election will damage the economy and stymie growth. "What would my constituents say", MacClegg asked in March, "if we had a Tory government pushing through ideological cuts that would damage jobs and growth". Hmmmm, how quickly the politically two faced can change their minds.

    I find it very difficult to take anything seriously from someone who keeps making "funny" name changes when referring to people they don't like. It is very childish and rather irritating.
  • Fiddlestick
    Fiddlestick Posts: 2,339 Forumite
    kabayiri wrote: »
    I find it difficult to believe the UK government has commitment to developing our nuclear manufacturing capability, when its a FRENCH company , EDF, paying 12.5bn for the future nuclear business in UK.

    They obviously must see big profit in it. Set against this, 80m seems small change.

    Over the last 20 years we have downsized and run down our nuclear industry in the UK - we simply don't have the skills any more to design and operate these sorts of installations any more.

    This is why we have to get in folk from France :(
  • bendix
    bendix Posts: 5,499 Forumite

    Oh dear oh dear, Clegg sold his soul for a shiny office.

    Unlike your beloved Labour Party, which sold this country's financial stability for shiny office.

    Spend spend spend. Spend money we don't have on things we don't need, to buy votes. Spend with no monitoring.

    Even Darling has intimiated that he had to hide the fact the deficit wasn't as bad as Brown thought it was from him, for fear Brown would spend before the election to buy votes.

    Your hypocrisy is breathtaking.
  • StevieJ
    StevieJ Posts: 20,174 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 10,000 Posts Combo Breaker
    edited 18 June 2010 at 2:46PM
    Generali wrote: »
    I'm not sure what is more idiotic. This comment or that 5 people thanked it. You really don't have a clue do you.

    8 icon7.gif I think the cancellation of Forgemaster would be a major embarrassment to Clegg.
    'Just think for a moment what a prospect that is. A single market without barriers visible or invisible giving you direct and unhindered access to the purchasing power of over 300 million of the worlds wealthiest and most prosperous people' Margaret Thatcher
  • Gorgeous_George
    Gorgeous_George Posts: 7,964 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture Combo Breaker
    They don't think twice about investing £billions of taxpayers money supporting Defence industries.

    Our manufacturing industries are vital.

    GG
    There are 10 types of people in this world. Those who understand binary and those that don't.
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