RANT school non-pupil days!

Jojo_the_Tightfisted

Yes, and how are those people not an issue for the rest of the population? Anyone who works in a shop, a hospital, a pub or a building site, or even who is unable to work and has to go to a JobCentrePlus is likely to come across some of these people. If they have children they could meet them in the playground. They could meet them in the queue at the supermarket. Or they could be working as a police officer or a soldier on next to subsistence wages, where they have people shooting at them as well.

And not everybody is in poverty due to using drugs. That is an unfair assumption to make that they can't afford trips for that reason. Plenty are in poverty due to illness.

As I said in my earlier post, there are teachers in my family. None of them have ever complained in such a way.

I am not saying that teaching is an easy ride. But the conditions are significantly better than those faced by a very large proportion of the population and some teachers need to realise that they are actually very fortunate to have the education behind them that has enabled them to reach such a beneficial environment.

Until those teachers who give the impression that they are suffering in servitude in conditions rather like Central Kandahar, under constant aerial bombardment for a pound of potatoes and half a mouldy carrot, actually realise that their job and working conditions aren't actually that bad compared to the rest of the population, then they will find they get a hard time from others.

cybergibbons

The school I used to live at, attend, then work at simply added a week (or possibly 6 days) onto a holiday, and then training days were then taken in evenings, weekends, and beginnings/ends of other holidays. Worked well I thought.

PinkLipgloss

Jojo_the_Tightfisted wrote: »

Yes, and how are those people not an issue for the rest of the population? Anyone who works in a shop, a hospital, a pub or a building site, or even who is unable to work and has to go to a JobCentrePlus is likely to come across some of these people. If they have children they could meet them in the playground. They could meet them in the queue at the supermarket. Or they could be working as a police officer or a soldier on next to subsistence wages, where they have people shooting at them as well.

And not everybody is in poverty due to using drugs. That is an unfair assumption to make that they can't afford trips for that reason. Plenty are in poverty due to illness.

As I said in my earlier post, there are teachers in my family. None of them have ever complained in such a way.

I am not saying that teaching is an easy ride. But the conditions are significantly better than those faced by a very large proportion of the population and some teachers need to realise that they are actually very fortunate to have the education behind them that has enabled them to reach such a beneficial environment.

Until those teachers who give the impression that they are suffering in servitude in conditions rather like Central Kandahar, under constant aerial bombardment for a pound of potatoes and half a mouldy carrot, actually realise that their job and working conditions aren't actually that bad compared to the rest of the population, then they will find they get a hard time from others.

Jojo,

If you had read the thread carefully you would have realised that I was not implying that only teachers had to deal with those issues. I was, in fact, replying to another comment that said that teachers did not, unlike others, have to deal with them.

Furthermore, I think you will find (and I am talking from personal experience) that the experience of teachers can vary significantly depending on the area they work in.

FYI - "An assumption is a proposition that is taken for granted, as if it were true based upon presupposition without preponderance of the facts."

My statement contained brackets with "e.g." and was not therefore an assumption that all people living in poverty are using drugs, it merely indicated that some of them are. The reason I used drugs as an example is simply because I have worked with children who live in poverty because of their parents drug addiction.

gregg1

Jojo_the_Tightfisted wrote: »

Oh, get over yourself. Everyone with a job works hard. And dealing with the requirements of your job is easier because of the conditions, holidays, union involvement and pay structure/security.

Try adding insecurity, poor education, poverty and unsafe working conditions into the equation. That's what many people have to deal with.[/QUOTE]

I suggest you read my post again - properly this time!

You seem to know a lot about how easy the job is for someone who (I assume from your posts) is not a teacher! If you really are as envious as you sound about how easy the job is I am wondering why on earth you have not joined the profession? !! I can think of hardly any other professions who are having to constantly defend themselves from attacks such as yours.

gregg1

PinkLipgloss wrote: »

Jojo,

If you had read the thread carefully you would have realised that I was not implying that only teachers had to deal with those issues. I was, in fact, replying to another comment that said that teachers did not, unlike others, have to deal with them.

Furthermore, I think you will find (and I am talking from personal experience) that the experience of teachers can vary significantly depending on the area they work in.

FYI - "An assumption is a proposition that is taken for granted, as if it were true based upon presupposition without preponderance of the facts."

My statement contained brackets with "e.g." and was not therefore an assumption that all people living in poverty are using drugs, it merely indicated that some of them are. The reason I used drugs as an example is simply because I have worked with children who live in poverty because of their parents drug addiction.

Well said. But that is the problem - he is not reading the posts properly.