RANT school non-pupil days!

Reggie_Rebel

I don't know what gets my goat more, teachers moaning about how hard they work when they have a quarter of the year off and are home for deal or no deal on the occasions they do turn up or parents moaning that schools don't offer a 24/7 service so that they can absolve themselves of any parental responsibility at all

iamana1ias

SnowWhiterThanWhite wrote: »

Just really wanted to have a moan & would appreciate any comments - Have any of you actually managed to change the way your school has their training days?

Cheers

Topic has been done, ad nauseum, before. The search function is your friend - it may help you not to look so foolish in the future.

Storck

sarahg1969 wrote: »

Our have all been put together this year. They had two weeks off at half term in May.

Just because the days show up on your calender all together doesn't mean the staff will actually be doing them all then. They may have some twilight sessions or days at the start or end of other holidays.

peachyprice

sarahg1969 wrote: »

Our have all been put together this year. They had two weeks off at half term in May.

See, for me that would be far worse, it would mean I or my husband would have to take 2 weeks holiday of alone, rather than one, leaving only 1 week to have off together in the summer hols.

For me the odd day here and there is much better, I can take DD to work with me for 1 day, or her grandparents can have her for a long weekend, or I can take 1 days holiday, which I usually have floating around from the easter or half term holidays I have taken.

sarahg1969

Storck wrote: »

Just because the days show up on your calender all together doesn't mean the staff will actually be doing them all then. They may have some twilight sessions or days at the start or end of other holidays.

I didn't assume they would be. But it makes good business sense to lump them all together for a week, and then for them to arrange the specific dates for training thereafter, doesn't it? My training always takes place out of business hours too, so it doesn't impact on my clients. The way the school have organised it seems very sensible.

cat04

When I taught at a Secondary school before having my children we had 4 of our days tagged on to holidays, 2 of these being at the beginning of Setember.

Then the 5th day was split into 'twilight' sessions, i.e. after school hours - therefore making it highly unlikely that I would have been home in time to watch 'Deal or no Deal' as someone suggested all teachers did. I don't know what gets my goat more, non-teachers who complain about the amount of 'days off' we get or those who think they can do a better job at teaching than a degree qualified/classrom experienced teacher. (Yes, that last bit was said tongue in cheek in response to a previous post )

As all teacher's know, the working day isn't 9-3 at all, not even 8-4. There's a hell of a lot of work to bring home with you at the end of the day or over the 'holidays'.

Anyway, back to topic, I'm lucky enough to be a stay at home mum (for the time being anyway!) so INSET/Teacher Training/Baker days don't affect me in the slightest - in fact I think of it as a bonus day to spend with my daughter doing something fun together

trumpton

The OP could re-train as a teacher and then she/he would have similar holidays to his/her kids and wouldn't have to find child-care. Just a thought.

iamana1ias

cat04 wrote: »

As all teacher's (should) know..............

............there's no apostrophe for plural words

sarahg1969

trumpton wrote: »

The OP could re-train as a teacher and then she/he would have similar holidays to his/her kids and wouldn't have to find child-care. Just a thought.

He would still need someone to look after the children while he was working during the holidays, presumably?

DCodd

I know most people think that Teachers and school employees have nice long holidays but they don't, what happens in reality is that they get laid off for 11 weeks of the year and get their pro rata holidays paid only. In fact many Teachers actually are not aware of this as they are quoted a salary when they start but it is not really, correctly speaking a salary it is term time only pay that has been divided by 12 and paid in equal payments throughout the year but has now been "accepted" as being a salary. Support staff still have their pay shown as term time only with a full time equavalent shown for comparrison, but still paid in 12 equal payments.

I can supply the official calculation if anyone would like.

What this all means is that any work a teacher or support staff does outside of the schooling hours is unpaid as are the majority of their "holidays". How many of you would be happy to accept such working/pay conditions? Very very few I would imagine.