new drink driving laws.

Wee_Willy_Harris

You've never lived in Northern Ireland? Now that IS being pulled over!

goldspanners

Wee_Willy_Harris wrote: »

You've never lived in Northern Ireland? Now that IS being pulled over!

thats right,why would i want to live there? im sure there are some other corners of the globe that are rubbish aswell,if i did i would move,like im dealing with at the moment.

Wee_Willy_Harris

goldspanners wrote: »

thats right,why would i want to live there? im sure there are some other corners of the globe that are rubbish aswell,if i did i would move,like im dealing with at the moment.

So, no need to park outside the pub anymore. Problem solved. Don't quite know what you are getting your knackers in a twist over?

goldspanners

Wee_Willy_Harris wrote: »

So, no need to park outside the pub anymore. Problem solved. Don't quite know what you are getting your knackers in a twist over?

where are my knackers twisted? i posted this as a discussion topic. i don't advocate drink driving but i really don't think the 50mg to 80mg drivers are the real problem.

Paradigm

goldspanners wrote: »

where are my knackers twisted? i posted this as a discussion topic. i don't advocate drink driving but i really don't think the 50mg to 80mg drivers are the real problem.

I've got to agree.

Another point, there aren't enough Police to enforce the present driving laws (except speeding) which is why the standard of driving is on a downward spiral, as long as you're not involved in an accident there's little chance of being caught & being caught after an accident is a little late!
The drivers who deliberately break the current limit time after time will continue to break a lower limit, safe in the knowledge that they are unlikely to be caught.. it's a chance they are willing to take!

It's a PR exercise & will achieve nothing to stop the real drink drivers, who don't give a toss, but will risk suddenly criminalising (& alienating) the responsible guy who might stop off for a pint, & only a pint, after work.

Mankysteve

I think 50g t 80mg are a problem. As there be much more of them on road than the higher alcohol levels they are not as drunk and think there driving is not affected when it is. Anyway did you pick the 50mg to 80mg figure from it meaningless without stating what method of testing you citing.

While sometimes they pull people though other violations or as goldpinner was stateing leaveing a pub grounds, but most drivers get caught though there bad driving. So there driving is being affected.

I have a good idea where you pulled that figure from

tomstickland

Have you been drinking?

cyclonebri1

Paradigm wrote: »

I've got to agree.

Another point, there aren't enough Police to enforce the present driving laws (except speeding) which is why the standard of driving is on a downward spiral, as long as you're not involved in an accident there's little chance of being caught & being caught after an accident is a little late!
The drivers who deliberately break the current limit time after time will continue to break a lower limit, safe in the knowledge that they are unlikely to be caught.. it's a chance they are willing to take!

It's a PR exercise & will achieve nothing to stop the real drink drivers, who don't give a toss, but will risk suddenly criminalising (& alienating) the responsible guy who might stop off for a pint, & only a pint, after work.

:T:T:T:T:T:T Exactly.

cyclonebri1

tomstickland wrote: »

Have you been drinking?

:D:D Breathalised for being drunk in charge of a keyboard? guilty m'lord.

DrScotsman

Surely this entire debate boils down to one thing: Whether or not there is scientific evidence that 50mg significantly impairs you compared to 0mg?

Paradigm wrote: »

It's a PR exercise & will achieve nothing to stop the real drink drivers, who don't give a toss, but will risk suddenly criminalising (& alienating) the responsible guy who might stop off for a pint, & only a pint, after work.

Assuming the pint brings you to 50mg: If there is evidence that 50mg significantly impairs you then this theoretical guy is clearly not being responsible! There's no way to argue he is!
If there's no evidence then that's fair enough.
If the pint doesn't bring you to 50mg then he's not being criminalised.

So come on guys, let's see some evidence.