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Unions in La La Land?
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Spartacus_Mills wrote: »Who exactly are you, I, or indeed anyone to determine need ? We go down the route of need, or perceived need, and it becomes murky.
Doesn't take Einstein to work out that some allowances need to be removed from certain groups, can you not really work out that Richard Branson doesn't need a winter fuel allowance, so your solution is to take the benefits from everyone, typical Torybot response :eek:'Just think for a moment what a prospect that is. A single market without barriers visible or invisible giving you direct and unhindered access to the purchasing power of over 300 million of the worlds wealthiest and most prosperous people' Margaret Thatcher0 -
You pay for road fund licence, I take it you mean road tax.
Hey you have a car.
You drive on the roads in your car and you pay towards the upkeep of those same roads. You use a service and you pay for it.
You deserve a round of applause because?
By ISA I take it you mean what you can earn before you pay tax. I am woefully ignorant about stuff.
What else do you claim?
Just as a matter of interest ...........
Not very much unfortunately, but I think if the govt say you are allowed something you would be fairly stupid not to take it, it is up to the govt to get this right and only allocate resources to those in need.'Just think for a moment what a prospect that is. A single market without barriers visible or invisible giving you direct and unhindered access to the purchasing power of over 300 million of the worlds wealthiest and most prosperous people' Margaret Thatcher0 -
Not very much unfortunately, but I think if the govt say you are allowed something you would be fairly stupid not to take it, it is up to the govt to get this right and only allocate resources to those in need.
Absolutely agree 100%
However, changing the benefit claiming multitudes perceptions on what is true 'need' and what is a 'nice to have' or 'my entitlement' may take some time after many years of over complex and in many cases unecessary handouts.
For the record neither I or my wife have never claimed a single penny in benefits. We have however, paid hundreds of thousands of pounds in taxes.Go round the green binbags. Turn right at the mouldy George Elliot, forward, forward, and turn left....at the dead badger0 -
Doesn't take Einstein to work out that some allowances need to be removed from certain groups, can you not really work out that Richard Branson doesn't need a winter fuel allowance, so your solution is to take the benefits from everyone, typical Torybot response :eek:
LOL
Never voted Tory in my life. Never will. Still you never let the facts get in the way do you. What does Richard Branson have to do with anything ? Absolutely nothing. How do you know if he claims or does not ? On Moneybox last week it was claimed that the take up of entitlement (child benefit IIRC) at the upper end of the wage scale is less than 50%. ISTM that those who need them claim and those that do not will not bother. The system self-regulates.
Universal benefits, like universal healthcare, is desireable. The removal of said benefits at a certain level makes it a poverty trap. It strikes me as being a left wing position rather than a right wing position to support universal benefits.
Funny you mention Einstein, being as far removed from him as it is possible to be. :rotfl:"There's no such thing as Macra. Macra do not exist."
"I could play all day in my Green Cathedral".
"The Centuries that divide me shall be undone."
"A dream? Really, Doctor. You'll be consulting the entrails of a sheep next. "0 -
Spartacus_Mills wrote: »LOL
Never voted Tory in my life. Never will. Still you never let the facts get in the way do you. What does Richard Branson have to do with anything.
Funny you mention Einstein, being as far removed from him as it is possible to be. :rotfl:
What is that they say about resorting to insults
'Just think for a moment what a prospect that is. A single market without barriers visible or invisible giving you direct and unhindered access to the purchasing power of over 300 million of the worlds wealthiest and most prosperous people' Margaret Thatcher0 -
What is that they say about resorting to insults
People in glass houses is more appropriate seeing as it was you who dredged up Einstein and resorted to the insult in the first place.
If you want to debate the points then stick to them and drop the snide digs.
HTH."There's no such thing as Macra. Macra do not exist."
"I could play all day in my Green Cathedral".
"The Centuries that divide me shall be undone."
"A dream? Really, Doctor. You'll be consulting the entrails of a sheep next. "0
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