House rewire advice

KillerWatt

typeractive wrote: »

Hi KillerWatt! Thanks for the reply! When you state materials, do you mean all the sockets, light switches, wires, light bulbs etc?

Yes, although bear in mind that is a rough estimate for "standard" (ie, one light switch per room, one pendant per room, and no more than 4 twin sockets per room.

typeractive wrote: »

Right, when I say garage door power I mean just a socket ready to connect up a remote garage door.

That will be a spur rather than a socket.

typeractive wrote: »

The fire alarms are needed as I'm doing a loft conversion.

Fire alarms or mains interlinked smoke/heat detectors?

The latter won't put much on the price as it is nothing more than a bit of 3 core & earth, plus the cost of the detectors.

typeractive wrote: »

I'm based near Darlington (North East).

Would be nice to see a plan (proper plan that is) in order to nail the price down a bit more to be honest, but as it's Darlo and you are supplying the materials then £2000 - £2,500 is the ballpark figure I'd be looking at based on what you have said so far.

baldelectrician

I would strongly advise agains the client supplying the materials.

If something fails then the client will be liable to pay for the electricians time to reomve and replace it.
If the electrician has supplied the materials then parts and labour should be covered by the guarantee

I am doing a rewire this week (including certifiation) for the £2000 mark.
Pretty standard, 3-4 sockets per room etc

27col

When I used to wire houses, including 3 of my own. I had a simple principle. If you had more sockets than you thought that you needed, you did not have to use them. But if you had less than you needed, you could not use them. The second of these is by far the most inconvenient. In my case, I was installing them for myself, so the cost did not really come into it. If you are paying someone else, then obviously the cost is part of the controlling factor. Nowadays there is such a requirement for sockets that even I have given up and am using multi outlet socket boards in places like the computer and tv areas. I would have jumped at the offer for someone else to do the chopping out and making good. Unfortunately no-one ever did offer, so I had to do it all myself.

typeractive

First proper quote back in today. They were two nice chaps. Both with experience and seemed to know what they were talking about - they were in my house and looking at my plans, following things along nicely.

The main chap is newly setting up his own business, and is NAPIT approved but not on the competent person site (though they both did work for a firm that is).

Quick reminder of the house:
3 bed hous (2 double beds (one with en suite) and 1 single)
Living room
Dining Room
Kitchen
Hall stair landing
Loft conversion
Garage
Bathroom

Quoted for following materials:

44 Double sockets (white)
3 Fused spurs
16 Lights
32 Spot lights
3 Smoke detectors
1 Heat detector
3 4" fans
9 Data points (i'm supplying the network cabling)
9 T.V. points ( multiples behind main t.v.)
2 Telephone points
1 Door bell
1 10 way Distribution board

Material £1545.5
Labour £1440
Total calculated cost £ 2985.5


Note this does not include my alarm system, which will be a seperate bill. Any opinions?


Cheers!

Owain_Moneysaver

typeractive wrote: »

Hi KillerWatt! Thanks for the reply! When you state materials, do you mean all the sockets, light switches, wires, light bulbs etc? As I'm currently looking at the cost of buying things like the sockets and switches..

You won't get much if any reduction for supplying these because the electrician will lose his profit on the materials, and the ones you choose might be fiddly to install (small awkward terminals, etc).

Note some 'flat plate' style accessories need deeper back boxes.

No cooker point? - you might use gas but a future occupant might appreciate the option.

Shaver point or mirror light in bathroom?

Heating controls?

Outside lights?

Owain_Moneysaver

typeractive wrote: »

Quoted for following materials:
44 Double sockets (white)

They come in boxes of 10, so go for 50. You can never have too many.

typeractive wrote: »

32 Spot lights

Halogen? Mains or 12V? Either will be expensive to run, and mains you will go through bulbs like a vindaloo through a nun.

typeractive wrote: »

9 Data points (i'm supplying the network cabling)

So somewhere you'll have a hub/router etc? That will need power points too.

typeractive wrote: »

Material £1545.5
Labour £1440
Total calculated cost £ 2985.5

Sounds fairy nuff.

WillowCat

typeractive wrote: »

32 Spot lights
9 Data points (i'm supplying the network cabling)
9 T.V. points ( multiples behind main t.v.)
2 Telephone points

All those spot lights might be bumping up the bill a bit - are you sure you want them all? I agree they give lovely quality light but they are expensive to run, and if you change your mind in the future you've got loads of holes to fill in.

You could consider running the data, tv and telephone point wiring yourself - they don't fall under the regulations. In fact just run network cabling for your telephone runs as well as they can use the same wire.

typeractive

Owain_Moneysaver wrote: »

They come in boxes of 10, so go for 50. You can never have too many.

Right! Thanks

Halogen? Mains or 12V? Either will be expensive to run, and mains you will go through bulbs like a vindaloo through a nun.

LMFAO! heheh :rotfl: I don't know actually. We were thinking either LED or something 10's? Does that sound right? But we're not sure if the LED's can be on a dimmer (which I'd quite like).

So somewhere you'll have a hub/router etc? That will need power points too.

Check, check

Sounds fairy nuff.

Cool! :beer:

typeractive

WillowCat wrote: »

All those spot lights might be bumping up the bill a bit - are you sure you want them all? I agree they give lovely quality light but they are expensive to run, and if you change your mind in the future you've got loads of holes to fill in.

Yeah - I think i want them! lol I know I want them in the living room, dining room (as they're joined), master bedroom and en suite, and finally in the attic. I will spend most time in these I think. The rest of the house will have 'normal' lights. Fortunately my best mate is a plasterer so he will have to fill in the holes! heheh

You could consider running the data, tv and telephone point wiring yourself - they don't fall under the regulations. In fact just run network cabling for your telephone runs as well as they can use the same wire.

Right. So will the telephone plug into my router / switch?

Thanks!

WillowCat

typeractive wrote: »

Right. So will the telephone plug into my router / switch?

Thanks!

Terminate them into a patch panel, then run lines from your master telephone point to the patch panel also. That way you can always mix'n'match your data and telephone lines in the future just by switching the plugs in the panel.