BT and KCT problems - HELP!!

jmdnnlln

I'm watching it as well, I can't believe scum like Karl Cramp can do this to honest traders.
I hope one day they do it to the wrong people and get a 'personal' vist!:T

Luvvly_Bubbly

I am also going to avoid Cramp Sports aswell...

leimo

I've just watched it and very pleased to hear that they are now out of business so they cant ruin other peoples business and lives. I love Dom

HoofeHearted

I also arrived here via today's tv program. What a load of scumbags.

As for Cramp Sports, if this is their website http://www.crampsports.com/ ,then they appear to be up-front about their tactics.

"online discount racket specialists" :rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:

Paul_Varjak

Karl Cramp, who has been linked to KCT and Cramp Sports is also associated with a charity called KEEP YOUR SMILE LTD whose accounts submission to the Charities Commissioner is 102 days overdue.

On the website https://www.keepyoursmile.com (also https://www.keepyoursmile.co.uk) are listed several 'partner businesses'. Interestingly, many of those partner businesses have phone numbers beginning 0844 277. Keep Your Smile also has a phone number starting 0844 277 and its address is the same as KCT UK Ltd.

On the following page, Karl Cramp is mentioned and he has an email address @keepyoursmile.com. The website keepyoursmile.co.uk is registered to Karl Cramp.

I think alarm bells are really ringing now!

Paul_Varjak

Karl Jonathan Cramp 904824129
Director Information

Name

Mr Karl Jonathan Cramp Number 904824129


Address

Tauro Higher Stoneridge

Green Lane

Disley

Cheshire

SK12 2AL

Date of birth

03/07/1964

Nationality

U. Kingdom

Directorships

P81 SOURCING LIMITED 04398877

Company is dissolved 21/04/2005 Director

KCT PROPERTIES LTD 04762371

Active - Accounts Filed 13/05/2003 Director

WESTBOURNE MARKETING SERVICES LIMITED 02951001

Company is dissolved 31/07/1994 Company Secretary

WESTBOURNE MARKETING SERVICES LIMITED 02951001

Company is dissolved 31/07/1994 Director

KCT UK LIMITED 06889727 In Liquidation 28/04/2009

Director

KCS (EDINBURGH) LIMITED 03914231

Company is dissolved 28/01/2000

Director

KARL CRAMP SPORTS LIMITED 03814667

Company is dissolved 24/09/1999

Director

KARL CRAMP SPORTS (MANCHESTER) LIMITED 03153393

Company is dissolved 18/04/1996

Director

KARL CRAMP ENTERPRISES LIMITED 03573244

Company is dissolved 06/07/1998

Director

KCE LIMITED 03441985

Company is dissolved 22/10/1997

Director

CRAMP SPORTS LIMITED 04991117

Active - Accounts Filed 08/08/2005

Director

KEEP YOUR SMILE LTD 06041555

Active - Accounts Filed 04/01/2007

Director

FLYING PIG CARD LIMITED 04834986

Non trading 22/07/2003

Director

KCC GLOBAL MARKETING LIMITED 04762397

Company is dissolved 13/05/2003

Director

trisontana

The Cramp Sports site looks very dodgy. No telephone number and no postal address. The only way to contact them is via their online "contact us" page which doesn't show an email address. What are they trying to hide?

Paul_Varjak

trisontana wrote: »

The Cramp Sports site looks very dodgy. No telephone number and no postal address. The only way to contact them is via their online "contact us" page which doesn't show an email address. What are they trying to hide?

Some of their products are priced at £0.00p or even lower! If you try to order anything it aborts with an error message.

I did find a phone number for them, they confirmed they were Cramp Sport but claimed that Karl Cramp has had nothing to do with the company for ten years. This is clearly untrue as Karl Cramp has been listed as a director since 2005 and the domain name is in his own name!

I also checked the VAT number given on the website - no such VAT number exists!

Paul_Varjak

I made contact with ACTION FRAUD about this and they suggested I could publish their details for anyone who has been a victim. There is no point in making contact if you are not a victim - they will not take your report.

www.actionfraud.org.uk
Tel: 0300 123 2040



If you have any information on the KEEP YOUR SMILE charity you should contact the Charity Commission. Your report will need to be in writing.

http://www.charity-commission.gov.uk/


You can also report any trading fraud to Consumer Direct...

http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/Dl1/Directories/UsefulContactsByCategory/Governmentcitizensandrightscontacts/DG_195948

HoofeHearted

trisontana wrote: »

The Cramp Sports site looks very dodgy. No telephone number and no postal address. The only way to contact them is via their online "contact us" page which doesn't show an email address. What are they trying to hide?

I also noticed that you have to register to order anything. That's fine and a lot of companies do this. However, why the hell do they want your DATE OF BIRTH?