Cost v's number of children

wigginsmum

Ah well - I know which I'd prefer then

black-saturn

wigginsmum wrote:

Ah well - I know which I'd prefer then

Don't want to get into an argument with you thats all :A

wigginsmum

No worries, hun - I'm aware that you and I disagree about some things

black-saturn

wigginsmum wrote:

No worries, hun - I'm aware that you and I disagree about some things

If we ever meet in Walthamstow your not going to have a go at me for having kids are you? :eek:

dlb

Im glad that some people can accept other peoples point of view.

wigginsmum

Nope - as long as you don't make me look through your photo albums and videos of school plays

kate1976

I think it's up to every individual to say whether they want no kids, 1 kid or 30 kids!

I am 29 and have a son who's 11 and I'm certain I don't want anymore but the pressure I get from people is astounding, comments include: 'hadn't you better get a move on with your next?' 'your clock's ticking' 'I think it's cruel you're not giving him a sibling' and 'of course you want another one' Now I can appreciate people's views but I do not want another child, I'm positive on that one and I'm thinking of the tube tying myself!

Although I can't afford to give him everything he wants, which is a good thing as I don't want a spoilt brat on my hands, he is loved and happy enough being a 'lonely only'

I don't see why people make a big deal of people who don't want children or only have 1, so long as they're happy isn't that all that matters?!

black-saturn

kate1976 wrote:

I don't see why people make a big deal of people who don't want children or only have 1, so long as they're happy isn't that all that matters?!

I grew up with that. I was an only child and I remember relatives always asking if I would like a little brother or sister and also asking my parents when they are going to have another baby. I think the pressure got to them as when I was 17 they decided to have another one but my mum miscarried and they never tried again. Would have been one hell of a gap though.

llh189

I love a good debate!

dlb, you are exactly the type of person that the welfare state was founded to help, we should all be proud that it exists to help families through the tough times! I don't think any resonable person would think any less.

However ( please take note black saturn ) the original poster didn't find herself in a bad situation and needed help, she had a choice and her choice is to just kepp having kids on benefit and expecting the tax credit system to pay her.

If is a foolhardy argument to use, that todays kids will be funding us in our old age and therefore we should all have loads of kids, willy bloody nilly!

No one really knows how the welfare state will be funded in the future, but I tell you this if helpafriend and others carry one the way that they are, we, us, them won't be able to afford the welfare state, the poverty gap will open and the poor will stay poor, breeding more poor, the cycle will be never broken.

Why have kids and then make then live a dissadvantaged life, why would any sensible person make that choice, we live a material society, where higher education costs a fortune and the cost of living is rising everyday, to say a whole brood of kids means lots of love and fun times is looking through rose coloured glasses, I had poorer friends than me, and I was poor compared to some of my friends I don't remember those times as fun, neither do I remember my mum feeling great because we had second hand clothes.

We all should learn to take responsibility of our actions, the OP doesn't and doesn't seem that she ever will, long live then welfare state as a safety net but not a god given right.

Jay-Jay_4

The simple explanation is that if everybody takes out more than they have ever put in then the coffers will be empty and the free ride will stop there.

It's all very well justfying it as a new breed of taxpayers but if those 'taxpayers' follow their parents examples then there will be even less money going in and even more money coming out.

I have no problem whatsoever with families who claim benefits fairly but for someone to keep having babies because their benefits increase with each one is astonishing.